# Allow full access to capitals in highsec combined with a broad ehp nerf across all capital hulls

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Tags:** balance, redesign, game-mechanics\
**Created:** [February 25, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164 "2020-02-25T21:32:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Neeri\_Norian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neeri_norian/32/190122_2.png) [@Neeri\_Norian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neeri_Norian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/123 "2020-03-03T04:27:08Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> I disagree, lots of people talking about it, I’ve had many great conversations about capitals in highsec, and learned lots about making the game both balanced and fun with this proposal.

+1, lots of great conversations and make highsec great again

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**Author:** ![Turgun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/turgun/32/485606_2.png) [@Turgun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Turgun)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/125 "2020-03-03T06:16:39Z")

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Simply put, no.

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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/126 "2020-03-03T07:32:20Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Most of them are members of your corp that you told to come support your complaint threads.

Yeah, “we need Rorquals in highsec”.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/127 "2020-03-03T10:22:00Z")

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> [@Jerry\_Falcone](#):
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> i can’t quote it cause the topic is locked, and i was wrong i said developer when you said

copy the “share link” in the thread, and it will quote.

this allows to quote stupidity :

> [@High sec should be.. more safe](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-should-be-more-safe/190631/481):
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> Correlation does not necessarily imply casuation, but it also does not disprove causation. I can see your problem here, is that you are getting your understanding of the scientific method from a youtube video produced by CCP, instead of learning science at, say, a university. Most scientific research involves the establishment of correlation. Most scientific evidence is in the form of correlated data. You are falling into the fallacy of concluding that correlation should be dismissed. I refer …

Then you can quote specific part of it, eg obvious self contradictions

> [@High sec should be.. more safe](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-should-be-more-safe/190631/481):
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> Correlation does not necessarily imply casuation,

vs

> [@High sec should be.. more safe](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-should-be-more-safe/190631/481):
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> In other words, correlation (despite the words of your CCP science advisor) does imply causation

👌

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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/128 "2020-03-03T10:39:29Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> copy the “share link” in the thread, and it will quote.

It is also possible to quote another post, and edit the information manually (you need topic ID from page link, post number, and author name).

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/129 "2020-03-03T10:41:28Z")

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it’s possible to quote a part of a post, eg yours :

> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#):
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> possible to quo

by just selecting the text.  
This is no more possible when the post is in a locked topic. So you need to make a link to that post first, then submit, and THEN you can quote the parts of the post you are interested in quoting.

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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/130 "2020-03-03T10:44:50Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> This is no more possible when the post is in a locked topic.

Yep. So, what I said: you quote another post, for example,  
`[quote="Anderson_Geten, post:129, topic:222164"] This is no more possible when the post is in a locked topic. [/quote]`  
and change the resulting quote. In this case you need to change `Anderson_Geten` (author name), `129` (post number), `222164` (topic ID), and, of course, the quote itself.

I used it [here](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/85).

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/131 "2020-03-03T10:46:35Z")

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sounds very impractical to me.

You need to get the correct topic id, post id.

BTW I think the author name is irrelevant

> [@she](#):
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> So, what I said

edit : it’s not ! I thought it would update the quote with the correct name.

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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/132 "2020-03-03T10:48:16Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> You need to get the correct topic id, post id.

They are written in the post link, actually.  
For example, here is a link to your last post:

`https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/131`

`222164` is a topic ID, and `131` is a post ID.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/133 "2020-03-03T10:49:14Z")

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yeah but it’s more work than just pasting the previous post’s link and copying in the discussion, then making quotes on that copied one.

That’s why I wrote it seems impractical.

But maybe once you are used to it, it becomes fine.

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**Author:** ![Bronson\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bronson_hughes/32/189075_2.png) [@Bronson\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bronson_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/134 "2020-03-03T12:32:49Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Now now, remember the more we talk about our topics the better, and the more traction that they gain.

I respectfully disagree. I started my topic about a year ago and it still has fewer comments than this thread that you started last week; months-long dry spells haven’t been uncommon. I’m perfectly fine letting a topic sit undiscussed; in my experience forcing a discussion in a situation like this rarely ends well.

But…your thread, your prerogative.

> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> We advocates for capitals in highsec need to work together 🙂

I’d rather not, thanks. You seem like a nice enough person, but I think it’s safe to say that we think about EvE in _radically_ different ways.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/135 "2020-03-03T21:30:59Z")

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> [@Jerry\_Falcone](#):
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> i can’t quote it cause the topic is locked, and i was wrong i said developer when you said
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> > Due to my _ **extensive** _ history as a game designer,

Mind linking a screenshot including my name and forum post, because I never said I was a game developer lol.

Also, what does this have to do with the proposal at hand?

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**Author:** ![Neeri\_Norian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neeri_norian/32/190122_2.png) [@Neeri\_Norian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neeri_Norian)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/136 "2020-03-04T02:29:38Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Also, what does this have to do with the proposal at hand?

Bittervets can’t come up with any better argument so they have to make up insults and go off topic.

We must be strong and believe in highsec capitals, bittervet rage is proof we are winning.

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/137 "2020-03-04T03:09:49Z")

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> [@Neeri\_Norian](#):
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> proof we are winning

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/3/834cf425424dab6740be2695d11b7c3276e288af.gif)

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/138 "2020-03-04T04:04:11Z")

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you said game designer not developer… a lot of your “naari Narian” posts have you detailing “oh im a designer i can do eve better than ccp”

create all the lil forum alts you want, to defend getting nullsec stuff in hisec… its not needed, you do not speak for those of us who live in hisec and prefer pve over pvp, though i may join @Knowledgeminer and a few others and hell maybe even CODE, to just keep you from enjoying hisec mining.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/139 "2020-03-04T21:10:43Z")

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> [@Jerry\_Falcone](#):
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> you said game designer not developer… a lot of your “naari Narian” posts have you detailing “oh im a designer i can do eve better than ccp”

Umm I’m not Naari Narian?

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/140 "2020-03-06T03:51:15Z")

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thats a load of bull… anything with the last name narian, or any variety, has to be the same person… all yall end up being in the same corp, ICANP… so its obvious.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-full-access-to-capitals-in-highsec-combined-with-a-broad-ehp-nerf-across-all-capital-hulls/222164/141 "2020-06-04T03:51:19Z")

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