# Alpha changes: Best (Battle)ship for LvL4 missions

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535>\
**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [November 15, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535 "2017-11-15T16:56:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535/123 "2018-02-28T06:06:17Z")

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So do I…

Seems like the only battleships in the game are the vindicator and machariel nowadays, with the rattlesnake as close second.  
The navy battleships need a drastic decrease in price and they could be good choices.

Come the March patch, the increased cargo holds and targeting ranges help a little.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535/124 "2018-02-28T09:55:15Z")

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Raven navy is prettty good IMO.  
The issue is that even with its apply bonus, you still need apply mods. Then the delay makes lose ammos. Which he can’t get a lot of.  
You’re not supposed to get at range but it’s not fast enough to kite the rats, so you also need a mjd and a sebo to target \>100km 😕

I still enjoy it, but mainly because I don’t care about isk/h sometimes and just want to shoot things.

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**Author:** ![LulKlz\_Duster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulklz_duster/32/129692_2.png) [@LulKlz\_Duster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LulKlz_Duster)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535/125 "2018-02-28T21:52:36Z")

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Lvl4’s are easy and don’t require much investment if you know what you are doing of course. Kite the living S&!+ out of everything in a Raven with Cruise missiles or is you feel the need RHML.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535/126 "2018-05-29T22:02:01Z")

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