# Alpha changes: Best (Battle)ship for LvL4 missions

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535>\
**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [November 15, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535 "2017-11-15T16:56:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-best-battle-ship-for-lvl4-missions/39535/51 "2017-11-24T08:44:09Z")

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> [@Earnest\_Emu](#):
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> Ignore all the hype (■■■■■■■■) around doing these big numbers per hour for missions. I have yet to see anyone prove it. If you disagree, please record 1 hour of play time and show me where you wallet went up by said vast amounts.
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> Making assumptions on isk to LP conversions does not make it real as you still need to get the LP item, haul it and sit in a trade hub to try and sell it.

> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> Please, do you really think that someone will show you their way to make money the most efficiently possible ? As someone said on another topic, even PVE is PVP in Eve as you must beat the other people to sell your stuff.
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> also some good deals need too many LP, even after 2 hours you don’t have enough LP to buy one. And of course the longer you wait for your orders to pass, the better your profit.
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> I however agree with you that he should find what is good for him by himself and not be obsessed by what the other people do.

I mean yea of course they would, heck hateless was streaming it for a while: [Blitz and Burner Guide v1.2.3](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974)

as far as the trading part goes, LP values have been reasonably stable for well, nearly as long as the lp store was introduced in 2007. 1-2k isk/lp has been more or less the standard rate although of course there were some 3-5k trades if not higher for various periods of time. If you need isk now selling to buy orders is easy, and typically a more accurate price. if you can wait a little bit of time using sell orders is pretty easy, typically you can just leave them and they will sell within a week.

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