# Alpha changes (enforced HS green safety)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [November 5, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172 "2022-11-05T22:24:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/437 "2023-01-16T02:57:08Z")

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And you think that’s how small corps survive? Your even lazier than I am.

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**Author:** ![Elizabet\_Forgrave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elizabet_forgrave/32/457166_2.png) [@Elizabet\_Forgrave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elizabet_Forgrave)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/438 "2023-01-16T02:57:15Z")

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No, I don’t get the gist. That’s just a jumble of unrelated things that you seemingly dislike.

I like how you’re having a go at Safety now too though, that’s funny.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/439 "2023-01-16T02:59:41Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> But you still don’t address the problems of cores making it hard for small corps. 🥱

I recall a corp mate telling me all the woes their small corp had keeping a POS. Fueling it and all that nonsense.

How is this any different?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/440 "2023-01-16T03:02:36Z")

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> [@Elizabet\_Forgrave](#):
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> Which means you only think big alliances should be allowed structures.

I see…and was the Stanford Research Institute involved in this amazing ability of _you_ to tell _me_ what I think ? Were any spoons maliciously bent in this process ? I’m gonna have to call Uri Geller and tell him he’s been upstaged and The Amazing Elizabet now has full mind control over the entire world.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/441 "2023-01-16T03:05:51Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> How is this any different?

Now there’s an extra incentive to pop the station. I admit, we were in a wh which makes hanging around not worth it. Add the extra wh entrances and if i bother, I will just go back to operating outta a orca again.

Creepy Fit Orca! 😏

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**Author:** ![Elizabet\_Forgrave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elizabet_forgrave/32/457166_2.png) [@Elizabet\_Forgrave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elizabet_Forgrave)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/442 "2023-01-16T03:08:43Z")

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Nope, just when you say that only corps that can defend their structures should have them, then you factor in that large wardec corps farm structures for cores, the logical conclusion is that you only think large groups capable of fending off large wardec corps should own structures.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/443 "2023-01-16T03:09:29Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> I admit, we were in a wh

Oh yes…no attackers EVER lose their ships in a WH. Oh…wait…according to The Amazing Elizabet we never lose ships at all ! Did the spoon bending powers miss this one ?

> **[Vedmak | Altara Zemara | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103051224/)**
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> Altara Zemara (Absolute Order IX) lost their Vedmak in J142200 (D-R00016). Final Blow by KPbIS (Dead Squad) flying in a Legion. Total Value: 193,049,351.04 ISK

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/444 "2023-01-16T03:13:34Z")

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And what are you trying to prove? We lost ships?

I hope your young because at this rate, your well on your way to a myocardial infarction! 😆

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/445 "2023-01-16T03:15:04Z")

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> [@Elizabet\_Forgrave](#):
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> the logical conclusion is…

I rate your ‘logical conclusions’ at about 0.00000001 on the Richter scale.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/446 "2023-01-16T03:17:43Z")

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I have to admit, I can understand you raging about things you don’t understand. Thats been a staple for the forums for as long as I’ve been here.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/447 "2023-01-16T03:20:08Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> your well on your way to a myocardial infarction!

Nah…I’m having fun. I genuinely don’t care.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/448 "2023-01-16T03:21:47Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I genuinely don’t care.

Then why rant so hard over something you don’t care about and seem to nothing about?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/449 "2023-01-16T03:22:34Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Thats been a staple for the forums for as long as I’ve been here.

As has people ignoring an argument because they have a vested interest in some or other part of it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/450 "2023-01-16T03:23:44Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Then why rant so hard over something you don’t care about and seem to nothing about?

I’m not making you keep on responding. You are totally free to shut up. Same goes for Liz.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/451 "2023-01-16T03:23:51Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> have a vested interest in some or other part of it

Ah! I suspected you were a botter. Gave away your hand there… 😏

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/452 "2023-01-16T03:25:12Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> You are totally free to shut up.

Missed this after admitting you were a botter. 🤣

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/453 "2023-01-16T03:26:24Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Creepy Fit Orca!

Have a link?

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/454 "2023-01-16T03:29:52Z")

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Sorry, I already got bitched out for giving out info like that on the forums. (Cloaking device to start)

But if anyone can find the old battle fit orca, that would be a good start.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/455 "2023-01-16T03:33:07Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> the problems of cores making it hard for small corps.

Nobody cares about small corps, that’s why they are small.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/456 "2023-01-16T03:35:08Z")

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I like your style, don’t get me wrong! But 😛

Got to have a sense of humor!

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