# Alpha changes (enforced HS green safety)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [November 5, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172 "2022-11-05T22:24:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/558 "2023-02-10T21:40:52Z")

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Was thinking of asking him for advice on pvp as hasn’t lost a ship in a while, so must be good

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/1/9518d2a19d16f48bac4183312200e1e5fcfb0ea1.png)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/559 "2023-02-10T21:50:12Z")

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He is an elite operator. A very consummate and accomplished spaceship admiral. Entire fleets have been known to dock up whenever he shows up in a system. His skill and proficiency as a spaceship combatant in EVE is so renowned, that CCP actually calls upon his sage experience for input on major changes to gameplay mechanics.

Definitely not a player anyone should take lightly.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/560 "2023-02-10T21:53:10Z")

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If you say so, I define myself as merely competent, still watching that Jita Holding fleet warp out when I was on grid with a vaga did make me wonder if there was something special about me, though it was not Dracvlad, but one of my other characters. Funny though…, especially when he ended the wars we had allied in on just a bit later.

Is it not allowed to find something like that funny? Does the poster-child of the Eve forums not have a sense of humour?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/561 "2023-02-10T22:02:13Z")

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Help! Help! I am being slain!

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/562 "2023-02-10T22:05:25Z")

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Oh you do have a sense of humour, jolly good.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/563 "2023-02-10T22:16:50Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Oh you do have a sense of humour, jolly good

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/4/b/e4b6f48da56bd5163ea1ca0887260cd4297c83d0.gif)

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/564 "2023-02-11T00:00:43Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Many veterans will tell you that the fear of spying has blocked a lot of fights and stuff, I have seen it so many times. The fact that it is so easy in game and forces you to have so many out of game stuff to cover has always been an issue with Eve. You might think that it is cool and sexy to act like you are a master spymaster with that new account and all that, but it really is not much effort at all and is one of the reasons why so many small to medium alliances died.

Meh. You are trying to have it both ways. If it is so easy, then the small alliances can do it easily too. And if small corps don’t want to be disadvantaged…they could always try not blurting out opsec stuff in corp chat.

As for linking accounts…no. The whole idea of separate characters is to be as separate or as linked as one wants them to be. I might decide to live two entirely unrelated Eve lives. Why should they be _forced_ to link just because some paranoid people fear spying ?

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/565 "2023-02-11T01:29:38Z")

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wrong on every point, i am posting from an alt to protect the innocent.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/566 "2023-02-11T01:51:23Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> protect the innocent

Nobody is innocent !

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/4/3/d43d4279d32942247ab9e6559c7bf85be0f237ca.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/568 "2023-02-11T09:09:13Z")

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Wat? Again you show a lack of knowledge and strategic thinking of the impact if you cannot differentiate the impact on a small or medium alliance as compared to a big one, blimey…

Did you even read what I wrote, I basically said incentivise linking accounts. In any case you have a choice whether you want that or not. For example if you link two accounts you can choose any combination of the six characters being logged in and you have a shared hanger for your accounts. Two things that really add value. Anyway…, CCP is too dumb to do something like this!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/569 "2023-02-11T10:04:24Z")

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/570 "2023-02-11T16:07:46Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Wat? Again you show a lack of knowledge and strategic thinking of the impact if you cannot differentiate the impact on a small or medium alliance as compared to a big one, blimey…

You are trying to have it both ways…typical for this forum. You cannot claim in one breath that spying is ‘easy’, and in the next breath make out it is oh so hard that it disadvantages small alliances. I’ve been in some of those small alliances. Many operate out of NPC stations and don’t have any player owned HQ for anyone to zap anyway. Of course smaller corps are vulnerable to takeover or merging…that is precisely how Eve works. No-one’s going to start a 5 man corp today and be ruling Eve tomorrow. But all of the mega corps in Eve today were once themselves small groups. That is how it goes. That is how it should go.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/571 "2023-02-11T16:19:09Z")

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You are likely trolling, typical for these forums! Or you really have no idea?

I said alliances not corps.

When did I say it was more difficult for small or medium alliances to spy, I quite clearly pointed out that the impact on small to medium alliances is much greater than on large alliances.

So you are arguing with yourself. Weird.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/572 "2023-02-11T16:41:22Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I quite clearly pointed out that the impact on small to medium alliances is much greater than on large alliances.

No, you haven’t ‘pointed out’ anything…just made a claim with zero supporting data.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/573 "2023-02-11T16:54:49Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Or you really have no idea?

Listen to @Altara_Zemara you daft vampire.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/574 "2023-02-11T17:00:38Z")

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Trolling badly again. o7

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/575 "2023-02-12T00:41:28Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You lack knowledge in key areas

Didn’t you rage quit?

I mean, like twice now?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/576 "2023-02-12T01:22:43Z")

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It’s not “quitting,” it’s “waiting for the proper time to strike at your enemies.” Though he doesn’t have any enemies, because he has already utterly defeated them all.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/577 "2023-02-12T01:37:26Z")

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The paradoxical nature of his gameplay style far exceeds any mere mortal’s comprehension.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/578 "2023-02-12T09:14:42Z")

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Blimey, you are imagining things, but then again delusional thoughts are normal on this forum.

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