# Alpha changes (enforced HS green safety) **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [November 5, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172 "2022-11-05T22:24:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/172 "2022-11-07T16:21:08Z")
USA High Sec? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ha ha good one. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/173 "2022-11-07T16:23:29Z")
Yes, it’s a good comparison! And Iceland is one of those starter 1.0 systems nobody remembers the name, like Kisogo or something ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/174 "2022-11-07T16:24:53Z")
USA Is low sec, no doubt about it. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/176 "2022-11-07T16:27:48Z")
USA is high sec, low sec would be Latin America USA is the perfect example for EVE, it has secuity, it has Jita, but it has a bit of danger, just a little bit ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/177 "2022-11-07T16:28:12Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > starting with those Alphas they seem to have decided arent worth the server time. I don’t understand. CCP thinks the Alpha pilots aren’t worth existing? ---
**Author:** ![Vespasiana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vespasiana/32/340506_2.png) [@Vespasiana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vespasiana)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/178 "2022-11-07T16:31:46Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > USA is the perfect example for EVE, it has secuity, it has Jita, but it has a bit of danger, just a little bit Except EVE doesn’t have a school shooting every damn month. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/179 "2022-11-07T16:32:13Z")
I know mad isnt it, they introduce them with fanfare against the wishes of many players, then when players start accepting them, they start to neuter them. Just do away with undesirables, I say. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/180 "2022-11-07T16:35:34Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > then when players start accepting them, they start to neuter them. But didn’t CCP keep the proviso that they would nerf Alphas in the future if things got hairy? I read that in another thread somewhere from a veteran. I guess things got hairy and CCP felt it was time to do something before they lost ALL their players. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/181 "2022-11-07T16:37:13Z")
ouch that comment wasnt necessary, I won’t report it tough if someone reports this then its someone else ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/182 "2022-11-07T16:38:02Z")
Who says they arent hairy anymore? There will be more hair in future. Already people are saying this isnt enough. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/183 "2022-11-07T16:40:30Z")
I don’t see what the problem is with these changes, so alphas can’t gank freely in HS, maybe it will cause alpha’s to populate low sec to activate their disable safety like it should have been all along. Alpha’s were able to use combat drones but not mining drones…what if someone wanted to “try out” mining drones but couldn’t because of the restriction. These small changes needed to be done, we know that multi boxing happens even in alpha land, but I also know for sure that people are just putting up false flags, gankers will adapt, they are also NOT going away but hopefully the griefers will be reduced (probably not), but people who want to do crime should move to more lawless areas. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/184 "2022-11-07T16:41:22Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > that comment wasnt necessary, I won’t report it tough Aren’t you the one who posted a picture of a bunch of non-caucasians and called them “gangsters”? ---
**Author:** ![Vespasiana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vespasiana/32/340506_2.png) [@Vespasiana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vespasiana)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/185 "2022-11-07T16:41:37Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > that comment wasnt necessary Sorry, you wanted to compare Highsec to the U.S… there is no comparison to make. CONCORD is on the ball, within seconds. There’s more security in Low than there is in that land of the COUGHfreCOUGHeeHACK!! ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/186 "2022-11-07T16:42:50Z")
That picture came from the site IMDB, a movies site I don’t know which documentary is that, it’s something about gangs in the US ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/187 "2022-11-07T16:43:24Z")
Oh, ok. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/188 "2022-11-07T16:43:58Z")
> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#): > > people who want to do crime should move to more lawless areas. You cant commit a crime in a lawless area. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/189 "2022-11-07T16:45:04Z")
Tell that to the victim, how about we land on victimization. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/190 "2022-11-07T16:46:17Z")
Sorry, youve totally lost me. I just want all criminals and alphas banned. If someone shoots someone in lowsec, its not a crime. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/191 "2022-11-07T16:47:40Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Already people are saying this isnt enough It’s never enough for some people. I hope that CCP can find a good balance and maybe they already have. Those who continue to complain about gankers will now be easier to ignore and they’ll have a harder time justifying any more of like changes. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172/192 "2022-11-07T16:48:00Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > not a crime If so then security status shouldn’t be lowered in my view. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-changes-enforced-hs-green-safety/383172.md?page=10)