# Alpha clone suicide ganking need to stop! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 1, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191 "2020-03-01T19:50:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Zorro\_s\_shadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zorro_s_shadow/32/189453_2.png) [@Zorro\_s\_shadow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zorro_s_shadow)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/245 "2020-03-09T09:05:16Z")
Lol, gankers are not top tier pvpers, they are the cockroaches of eve online. It’s like you’d call a pity killer who kills for 10 bucks a mastermind. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/246 "2020-03-09T09:07:38Z")
> [@Zorro\_s\_shadow](#): > > a pity killer who kills for 10 bucks A what? ---
**Author:** ![Dannboi\_OftheHanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dannboi_ofthehanger/32/257180_2.png) [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dannboi_OftheHanger)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/247 "2020-03-09T12:44:06Z")
TBH my first and only sub i payed is about to expire and i have no intention of re-subing. Completly uncontroled alpha ganking, loot steeling not even being a criminal act in high-sec (esp mission loot). I would hate to even ask what happens in low-null sec. Gl shooting the declinig number of players you are never getting back. Not even alowing peeps to farm enough isk to have enough replacable cheep ships for pvp, let alone anything esle. Completly noob-unfriendly, Ive been reading from elitists stuff like ‘go home carebare/crybaby’ and all i can say is i feel sorry for you all. Some people just wanna fly through space, exploring, and doing some pve. Tho a bit dumb-ish, eve has some nice pve to do, and saying its stricly pvp game is stupid af. You might want to pvp but alot of peeps dont. So GL, have fun, and clear skies to what little remains of players that overinvested and cannot quit ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/248 "2020-03-09T12:48:04Z")
> [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > Completly uncontroled alpha ganking Where? Not in Devoid thats for sure > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > loot steeling not even being a criminal act in high-sec (esp mission loot) Yes it is > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > Not even alowing peeps to farm enough isk to have enough replacable cheep ships for pvp, let alone anything esle. This is a lie > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > Completly noob-unfriendly, Ill give you that, but you know, everyone says thatit is, in all reviews pretty much, so why expect it to be different > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > Some people just wanna fly through space, exploring, and doing some pve. So whats wrong with ED? Thats all you CAN do in it. > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > You might want to pvp but alot of peeps dont. So you knew PvP was a risk, and you installed and subbed anyway, without even wanting to try and learn how to evade or adapt? And you are getting passive aggressively defensive at the thought of people saying good riddance? ARE YOU ON DRUGS ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/249 "2020-03-09T12:50:43Z")
> [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > loot steeling not even being a criminal act in high-sec Yes, it is a suspect act. Fight for your loot, don’t expect CONCORD to do all the dirty work for you. > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > Not even alowing peeps to farm enough isk to have enough replacable cheep ships for pvp You have strange standards about what is considered cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Dannboi\_OftheHanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dannboi_ofthehanger/32/257180_2.png) [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dannboi_OftheHanger)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/250 "2020-03-09T13:01:22Z")
yes well… gl playing the game with no newcomers to shoot at 😉 The game is not for me, and all i did was give my take on it. So… are you on drugs? if you are, what kind? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/251 "2020-03-09T13:04:51Z")
Pain killers mostly You have to be to come to the forums ---
**Author:** ![Dannboi\_OftheHanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dannboi_ofthehanger/32/257180_2.png) [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dannboi_OftheHanger)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/252 "2020-03-09T13:10:59Z")
i hope you drown em in alcohol for max effect ^^ Anyways, i realised i care more about space sims then about strat games so i went ED path. My intention was not to discourage players that like EVE to stop playing it. I’m just sayin the game is not for peeps like me. So, peace out and Clear Skies everyone¨! ---
**Author:** ![Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdullah-sekir-bashka/32/182573_2.png) [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/253 "2020-03-09T13:12:19Z")
can i have you stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/254 "2020-03-09T13:13:49Z")
> [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > i hope you drown em in alcohol for max effect Charming, I must say. > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > i care more about space sims then about strat games so i went ED path. Good call, its genuinely a great game, the flight model is both intuitive and fun, and has hidden crunch to it. I recommend hitting up the Hutton Orbital Truckers, they are a fantastic community, very friendly and helpful, and run events and such all the time. Their playstyle is what they call PwP, Playing With Players, i.e. co-operative play. Anyway, hope you find Raxxala one day Fly Safe, Cmdr o7 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/255 "2020-03-09T13:18:48Z")
For all you naughty gankers out there, here’s what the incomparable Dr. Eyjolfur Gudmundsson had to say about ganking newbies in hisec. Just a reminder of his good advice. He said nothing about miners though, fair is fair. https://www.youtube.com/embed/7MZD6-vGQms?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLDDA989F65CD6E98A&start=330 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/256 "2020-03-09T21:11:54Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > But i can say with 101% assurance that if your killer has \< week experience and SS a bit less or around 0.0 - it’s alpha clone. Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/257 "2020-03-09T21:13:07Z")
> [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > i have no intention of re-subing > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > So GL, have fun Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/258 "2020-03-09T22:00:08Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > if player only start the game he cant figure out how to be a suicide ganker within a week. He could read about it before joining the game. And then ask someone for more details after signing up. Before i joined the game I’d been researching eve quite a bit. Watched two alliance tournaments, checked out ships and fits, guides, videos etc In my trial account i knew what I wanted to do and had a fair idea how to do it. This could easily be applied to ganking. > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > Some people just wanna fly through space, exploring, and doing some pve. So why join a pvp sandbox like eve? Why not play a game where you can do exactly what you want? ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/259 "2020-03-09T22:22:30Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > But i can say with 101% assurance that if your killer has \< week experience and SS a bit less or around 0.0 - it’s alpha clone. I think that it is most likely not an alpha clone due to skill queue speed differences. Effective ganking requires some skills, and they are not going to magically pop up in an alpha clone. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/260 "2020-03-09T22:57:37Z")
> [@Zorro\_s\_shadow](#): > > Lol, gankers are not top tier pvpers, they are the cockroaches of eve online. It’s like you’d call a pity killer who kills for 10 bucks a mastermind. I’m the top of the top, number #1 I don’t kill for 10 bucks, I gladly do it for free > [@Dannboi\_OftheHanger](#): > > Completly uncontroled alpha ganking, loot steeling It’s what makes this game fun, I love alpha ganking, so good ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/261 "2020-03-09T23:13:24Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > I think that it is most likely not an alpha clone due to skill queue speed differences. Effective ganking requires some skills, and they are not going to magically pop up in an alpha clone. 1kk free SP. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/262 "2020-03-09T23:24:15Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > 1kk free SP. “Abusing the Recruitment Program (such as by creating multiple accounts to farm rewards) is considered an exploit and will not be tolerated.” ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/263 "2020-03-10T00:26:11Z")
Anything you say smart boy. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/264 "2020-03-10T01:03:24Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > For all you naughty gankers out there, here’s what the incomparable Dr. Eyjolfur Gudmundsson had to say about ganking newbies in hisec He didn’t mention ganking even once in that video. Maybe you meant a different video? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191.md?page=14)