# Alpha clone suicide ganking need to stop! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 1, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191 "2020-03-01T19:50:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/42 "2020-03-02T23:18:16Z")
That is why you shouldn’t park on the train tracks. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/43 "2020-03-02T23:21:20Z")
Smart money says get out before the train comes ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/418d74d57b3a0e78c56d320b82b24b37a34b6f91.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/44 "2020-03-02T23:21:27Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > And if there will be 20 Catalysts? Then leave highsec, problem solved. > [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > There needs to be real consequences for picking low hanging fruit. Why? The low hanging fruit has the ability to stop being low hanging fruit at any time, why should gankers be punished because lazy and/or incompetent players are unable to play the game properly? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/45 "2020-03-02T23:34:10Z")
> [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > > [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > > > “You just create newacc and repeat.” > > > > > Nope that’s a bannable offense > > Do you believe that yourself? They enforce it all the time. What I believe is you are theroy crafting because you got roflstomped in a ship you didn’t know how to use and couldn’t afford to lose. We need to see the kill mail. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/46 "2020-03-02T23:57:40Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > If you wanna some illegal action - then go to low/null. Exactly! If you want to engage in illegal mining go to low/null! Otherwise get a mining permit and follow the Code miner! ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/47 "2020-03-03T00:09:11Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > There won’t be, we are talking about Alphas And we all know how easily that single alpha lock can be bypassed. Let’s not pretend otherwise. Note. I’m not saying the safety should be locked green here, just pointing out how silly it is to say “but there can only be one alpha” when we know peopke have been breaking that rule regularly for various uses. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/48 "2020-03-03T03:42:13Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Suicide one of the beauty of EVE life but not when you completely ignore the consequences. > Ppl dont even care about SS loss, CONCORD punishment or whatever. > You just create newacc and repeat. I dont even need to recreate my 20 alpha gank accounts, I just keep using them at -10, getting so many big kills and so much isk Sounds like you’re jealous of top tier pvpers like me, you need to git gud ---
**Author:** ![Coagulant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coagulant/32/188937_2.png) [@Coagulant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coagulant)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/49 "2020-03-03T06:01:41Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > I dont even need to recreate my 20 alpha gank accounts, I just keep using them at -10, getting so many big kills and so much isk > > Sounds like you’re jealous of top tier pvpers like me, you need to git gud Ganking is NOT PvP…. removed inappropriate comment -Sakimura ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/50 "2020-03-03T06:03:52Z")
> [@Coagulant](#): > > Ganking is NOT PvP I’m curious to know what you think PvP in EVE Online is. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/51 "2020-03-03T06:08:59Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Oh, sorry. I didn’t realize you were a carebear piece of trash who doesn’t PvP. Come on Scoots. This guy fleets. He’s 100% F1 Monkey, which I’m so sure is what “true” pvp is in his eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Coagulant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coagulant/32/188937_2.png) [@Coagulant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coagulant)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/52 "2020-03-03T06:14:17Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > I’m curious to know what you think PvP in EVE Online is. It’s Player vs Player not Group vs player > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Oh, sorry. I didn’t realize you were a carebear piece of trash who doesn’t PvP. > lmao lol epic… You might want to check my killboard dumbass… plus I haven’t played your the last 3 years… games full of too many tools like you TEST dummies ---
**Author:** ![Coagulant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coagulant/32/188937_2.png) [@Coagulant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coagulant)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/53 "2020-03-03T06:15:33Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Come on Scoots. > > This guy fleets. He’s 100% F1 Monkey, which I’m so sure is what “true” pvp is in his eyes. So shooting someone that cant shoot back is PvP…. lol ok… you elite ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/54 "2020-03-03T06:15:54Z")
> [@Coagulant](#): > > Player vs Player It’s 1 player (controlling alts) vs a loser. Sounds like PvP to me. I don’t see anywhere that states THE LAW OF PvP SHALL ONLY BE 1v1. > [@Coagulant](#): > > my killboard dumbass… killboard stats don’t mean jackshit, dear > [@Coagulant](#): > > plus I haven’t played your the last 3 years… and yet you still hang around to cry about ganking, thanks for your ‘service’ lmao ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/55 "2020-03-03T06:16:53Z")
> [@Coagulant](#): > > So shooting someone that cant shoot back is PvP…. lol ok… you elite Might want to take some of your own advice on checking killboards dumbass. PVP is just any player against any other player. Your superiority complex doesn’t stretch far, since none of it is any more elite than any other. Win a fight, you elite. Lose it and you a loser. ---
**Author:** ![Coagulant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coagulant/32/188937_2.png) [@Coagulant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coagulant)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/56 "2020-03-03T06:17:35Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > and yet you still hang around to cry about ganking, thanks for your ‘service’ lmao I just called in to see how far the game has dropped & going by you, it has fallen a long way ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/57 "2020-03-03T06:18:54Z")
You’re free to step away anytime. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Turgun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/turgun/32/485606_2.png) [@Turgun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Turgun)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/59 "2020-03-03T06:30:05Z")
Having only been hs suicide ganked about 3 times since 2007 im a little perplexed as to why you think this is an issue. Imho the only issue surrounding suicide ganking is when its against newbros, but thats because they are new… and if they are in starter system they should be safe anyway (or at least can report ganker as they are not supposed to do that there) ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/60 "2020-03-03T06:51:16Z")
> [@Coagulant](#): > > So shooting someone that cant shoot back is PvP…. lol ok… you elite Yes, someone who controls a ton of alts to overcome CONCORD and pirate stuff in the most secured region of the game is definitely engaging in some more actual PvP than a guy like you who just presses F1 when someone else tells him to. Maybe it’s PvP for your FC, but given it happens in nullsec where you don’t have the rules stacked against you and the playing field is completely leveled it’s pretty much easy mode compared to what @Australian_Excellence is doing. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/61 "2020-03-03T07:26:25Z")
> [@Coagulant](#): > > It’s Player vs Player not Group vs player So, only duels are a proper PvP? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191/63 "2020-03-03T11:22:42Z")
> [@Turgun](#): > > Having only been hs suicide ganked about 3 times since 2007 im a little perplexed as to why you think this is an issue. > Imho the only issue surrounding suicide ganking is when its against newbros, but thats because they are new… and if they are in starter system they should be safe anyway (or at least can report ganker as they are not supposed to do that there) There is a lot of examples of personal stalking or streamsniping too Nobody would risk their mains for this. But you dont care when you can gear up catalysts alpha fleet by click. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191.md?page=4)