# Alpha clone suicide ganking - plague of EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 18, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448 "2022-06-18T21:39:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![The\_Gloveless\_Proctologist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_gloveless_proctologist/32/321871_2.png) [@The\_Gloveless\_Proctologist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Gloveless_Proctologist)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/62 "2022-06-20T00:32:13Z")
This is funny coming from one of the most well known griefers and gankers in the game @DrysonBennington ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/63 "2022-06-20T01:25:52Z")
The more time I spend in Eve…the more I realise… 1. The ‘gank plague’ is vastly over-stated. The vast majority of systems have no gankers in them at all. And even the ganker hotspots like Uedama and Isanamo are safe most of the day…you just need to send a scout in advance to have a look. 2. People ignore intel…and then wonder why they got ganked. 3. People mine AFK, or right next to some asteroid belt landing point…and then wonder why they got ganked ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/64 "2022-06-20T06:10:08Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > He was part of a tribe of children from the crashed airplane that stuck together and hid from the more powerful dregs that roamed the land What you’re describing is Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. You need to watch Mad Max the Road Warrior. That’s the film Tutucox Khamsi is referring to and that’s the film that featured that kid. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/65 "2022-06-20T08:07:55Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The ‘gank plague’ is vastly over-stated. The vast majority of systems have no gankers in them at all. And even the ganker hotspots like Uedama and Isanamo are safe most of the day…you just need to send a scout in advance to have a look. Most of the ganker sitting in Forge, since most of PvErs and traders sitting also there. Besides, all sisters lvl4 agent sys is under gank danger 24/7 ---
**Author:** ![Raylan\_Yutani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raylan_yutani/32/312133_2.png) [@Raylan\_Yutani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raylan_Yutani)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/66 "2022-06-20T08:50:05Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Most of the ganker sitting in Forge Not according to zkill. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/c/8/4c85d99f6034e0c33b44752738bba8567cb48376.png) ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/67 "2022-06-20T08:57:49Z")
> [@Ursula\_Anders](#): > > What you’re describing is Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. > > You need to watch Mad Max the Road Warrior. That’s the film Tutucox Khamsi is referring to and that’s the film that featured that kid. ![3026d86ef3fac29e29bf73ed58f1ae3e](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/a/8/fa865b915c7100c04d10433cf7db7a1e4362e9d5.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/68 "2022-06-20T10:48:12Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Simple. Who will pay a monthly omega fee to 5 accounts to gank people in hisec? I do. > **[Solitude Pest Control and Tear Extraction. | Corporation](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98679893/)** > > Solitude Pest Control and Tear Extraction.: 260 ships destroyed and 621 ships lost. Although, the gankers are just one character on each of those accounts. The other characters do other things. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > If multiple, you still want to punish a group of players that must then be clearly playing the game within the rules and in line with what EVE is about and allows, just to make the game safer for others? You see. Mr Raven 101 got hurt. His hard work saving up for that Hulk has been wasted. He wants to _get back_ at the people who hurt him, and by extension, _everyone_ who engages in that playstyle. Being a feeble carebear, he’s unable to do so on his own, so he’s petitioning a higher power to come and enact his spiteful revenge for him. > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > I just want fair game. It is fair. A Hulk aligns in about 8 seconds. It would be exceedingly difficult to gank a Hulk if the player was … … at the keyboard and paying attention. Literally, he could have defeated all 5 of those pilots simply by pressing “warp to 0” on any celestial. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Because locking alphas from pvp would hurt quite a few people in my corp that pvp with rifters on alpha accounts. People still PvP with Rifters? > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > No, I think what you mean by fair, is having an “I WIN” button. Duh. It’s only fair when he’s winning! The only way he loses is if it’s “unfair”, “imbalanced”, and someone was “cheating”! > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i will be hardcore frank here > most people have > Loss aversion bias And for good reason. You can only eat so much food. But you can be very, very dead from starvation. Anyway, I stopped reading this thread right about here. Good morning read. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/69 "2022-06-20T13:50:51Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > People still PvP with Rifters? Black Rebel Rifter Club! ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/70 "2022-06-20T13:51:49Z")
Can we get this thread merged into the mega cryfest thread now? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/71 "2022-06-20T14:35:24Z")
Why would you nerf the fun parts of the game (ganking) to benefit the most boring minigame, not only in EVE but probably in all of gaming (mining)? Seems completely backwards to me. They should make ganking miners part of the tutorial ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/72 "2022-06-20T14:40:28Z")
Last time I saw one of them he was in an A T R O N ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/73 "2022-06-20T18:26:04Z")
Happy cake day! ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/74 "2022-06-20T19:09:40Z")
Cake day? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/75 "2022-06-20T19:15:09Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/1/e919c0ca5c3b8ec700bee3afbef3da839bb53c3a.jpeg) Today was the day you signed up on EvE forums. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/76 "2022-06-20T19:35:57Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > They should make ganking miners part of the tutorial I suggested this, as part of a sincere effort to help new players, but @Mike_Azariah got all in a huff about “legitimizing” ganking and used his position as a CSM to push for a new player experience which utterly fails to teach new players. Sometimes people just can’t admit when they are wrong about something. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/77 "2022-06-20T19:54:55Z")
Yeah it’s sad that the anti-content crew is holding EVE’s potential down for years now. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/78 "2022-06-20T19:56:55Z")
you’re welcome m ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/79 "2022-06-20T19:57:19Z")
Mike has just given up on being reasonable and just goes for full snark now. Hopefully, with the shift to lowsec and faction warfare, CCP has finally realized that PvP is the only effective way to retain new players. All this handwringing over whiny newbro “griefing” has done nothing to increase the active playerbase. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/80 "2022-06-20T20:47:00Z")
Why then these “new players” didnt go to low/null, where is the most interesting PvP content? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/81 "2022-06-20T21:04:32Z")
There are many different interesting forms of PvP content. I think miner ganking could be one that is easily accessible to new players. It’s also one of the most fun activities in the game. Dunking miners just never gets old. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Mike has just given up on being reasonable and just goes for full snark now. I wonder how long CCP can tank the player drain because of this constant fun content removal and pushing the boring parts. At some point they may have to reverse or maybe charge the miners even more for the sub. Luckily as we learned from this thread, one can gank as an alpha just fine [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448.md?page=5)