# Alpha clone suicide ganking - plague of EVE

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 18, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448 "2022-06-18T21:39:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/122 "2022-06-23T18:36:25Z")

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so maybe the easy fix to all this is for the alpha or omega symbol we have on our character sheets be made public. That way if people really are using multiple alpha accounts, it will be easier to spot and report.  
Thats just my 3 cents, 2 weeks into the game as an alpha.

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**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/123 "2022-06-23T21:46:14Z")

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> [@Tessa\_Springfield](#):
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> so maybe the easy fix to all this is for the alpha or omega symbol we have on our character sheets be made public.

Everything has a flip side. By making that info visible it tells someone what your likely SP ability will be. Could make alphas more of a target because the skill cap is made public.

Knowledge is power in more ways than one.

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/124 "2022-06-23T23:54:37Z")

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@Tessa_Springfield @Etch_Masuka I agree with both of you now. How bizarre

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**Author:** ![Shilliam\_Watner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shilliam_watner/32/358077_2.png) [@Shilliam\_Watner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shilliam_Watner)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/125 "2022-06-24T04:00:29Z")

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> [@Qux](#):
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> This is more about greed in the ice belt than anything. I presume the gankers mine that ice belt all day every day, and the poor hulk just wanted to play the game and mine ice that he thought was for everyone.

A lot of presumptions. First I’m running 5 alpha accounts, now I’m clearing my competition from the ice belt. Neither is true.

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**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/126 "2022-06-24T05:20:55Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Miners should be respected. Not ganked.

It’s been over two years since last time I saw either CODE. or Safety. while I was Null mining, and that was just the Goryn people using CODE. as a meme ticker.

You choose to mine in a place with suicide gankers.

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**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/127 "2022-06-24T05:23:16Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> If you brick tank it - mining yeld become a joke.

A tanked ship has better yield than a dead ship.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Ashbringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ike_ashbringer/32/325300_2.png) [@Ike\_Ashbringer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ike_Ashbringer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/128 "2022-06-24T06:33:13Z")

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Damn that thread is so funny

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**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/129 "2022-08-20T17:08:08Z")

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Ya hafta admit, an atron is good bang for the buck. Scram and bam.

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**Author:** ![Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shower_ben_dover/32/329433_2.png) [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shower_Ben_Dover)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/130 "2022-08-20T20:54:17Z")

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Ganking is mostly a myth anyhow.

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**Author:** ![Oleg\_K77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oleg_k77/32/329549_2.png) [@Oleg\_K77](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oleg_K77)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/131 "2022-08-21T07:39:26Z")

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> [@Videles\_Silenthunter](#):
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> I think if they want to attract more players they should make highsec pve only. Ive played in nullsec an wormholes mainly and a little bit in lowsec. But highsec is by far the most dagerous place in the game and thats where all the new players enter the game.

Well, there is a decent chance we will get new server with somewhat different rules, PvE only hi-sec included, in reasonably near future.

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**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/132 "2022-08-21T07:47:37Z")

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> [@Videles\_Silenthunter](#):
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> But highsec is by far the most dagerous place in the game

Balderdash

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**Author:** ![Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shower_ben_dover/32/329433_2.png) [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shower_Ben_Dover)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/133 "2022-08-21T07:57:49Z")

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> [@Oleg\_K77](#):
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> > [@Videles\_Silenthunter](#):
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> > I think if they want to attract more players they should make highsec pve only. Ive played in nullsec an wormholes mainly and a little bit in lowsec. But highsec is by far the most dagerous place in the game and thats where all the new players enter the game.
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> Well, there is a decent chance we will get new server with somewhat different rules, PvE only hi-sec included, in reasonably near future!

I cant wait for the glorious forum tears when that happens. CCP WAAAA WAAAA I CANT SELL ANYTHING OR MAKE ANY ISK WAAA WAAA

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/134 "2022-08-21T08:40:24Z")

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Well if that happens maybe CCP makes it so that certain things including some of the PI stuff can only be made at a certain sec level so some things only lowsec, some only wh space, some only null, and some generic stuff only high sec, that way only the hisec carebears will cry as the rest still can make decent profit on their own sec stuff outside hisec as only hs will be cluttered with alphas (and omegas) saturating mining, industry and trade.

Well at lest I can see that working out but not an expert if it could or would work and not sure CCP cares that much they would implement it or if they would have another plan in mind or just wouldn’t care at all anyway.

Btw either way yes the salt flood would be glorious. 😈

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/135 "2022-08-21T08:45:46Z")

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That or people will turn to status symbols. “Look I have every Battleship in high sec in the game”. “Look at my skin for them”. Etc cetera, ad nauseam.

The problem of status symbols is they themselves rely on two things:

1. Recognition
2. Scarcity

If a PvE-only high sec server is made, and everyone has a status symbol, well then it’s nothing to brag about anymore, so number 2 is gone. Who cares if you have 30 Bhaalghorns. If people on that server whine and complain to CCP to make more status symbols to be exclusive, you have the WoW problem of there being a billion status symbols and other people not wanting to learn what they all mean, so you get humblebraggers that have to “modestly” explain their brag of having an AT ship in high sec, so number 1 above is gone.

Either way, the whole point of status symbols get erased on PvE-only servers, that coupled with ISK being permanently deflationary (and therefore useless) means there’s not much extrinsic purpose to playing on such a server.

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**Author:** ![Small\_Kitty\_Paws](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/small_kitty_paws/32/267673_2.png) [@Small\_Kitty\_Paws](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Small_Kitty_Paws)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/136 "2022-08-21T08:49:22Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> If a PvE-only high sec server is made

It was made. It’s new Chinese server. Only thing left is to give it some time and see how bad it will end up.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/137 "2022-08-21T09:01:23Z")

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one day i was mining in a full yield hulk wen i saw the princess and her gang of thugs

i panicked  
OMG  
im soooooooooo underdressed

but she was a lady like always  
and we had cake  
and tea  
and biscuits

and i played a sweet melody in my flute  
while the princess picked flowers near the volcano of my little planet

we enjoyed premarital handholding  
and watched the sunset

then  
they ganked me

10/10 would be frozen is space in love again

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/138 "2022-08-21T09:02:38Z")

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What kind of impolite barbarian are you? You should have drawn her a dolphin. 😛 😉

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**Author:** ![Oleg\_K77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oleg_k77/32/329549_2.png) [@Oleg\_K77](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oleg_K77)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/139 "2022-08-21T09:17:08Z")

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> [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](#):
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> I cant wait for the glorious forum tears when that happens.

We all know WHO will actually cry a river when it happens.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/140 "2022-08-21T13:50:49Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Well if that happens maybe CCP makes it so that certain things including some of the PI stuff can only be made at a certain sec level so some things only lowsec,

They should also move level 4 missions to low sec.

When there is no isk sink in high sec, they are going to have to find ways to move the care bears to low sec and encourage ship loss. Else the market will become saturated with minerals and prices tank.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/141 "2022-08-21T13:52:21Z")

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> [@Oleg\_K77](#):
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> We all know WHO will actually cry a river when it happens.

You? It’s going to be you? I bet it’ll be you.

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