# Alpha clone suicide ganking - plague of EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 18, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448 "2022-06-18T21:39:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/142 "2022-08-21T18:53:52Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > Etc cetera, ad nauseam. people already do that. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/143 "2022-08-21T19:27:35Z")
Yes, and I should have been explicit: when ISK is worthless, the only thing _left_ to turn to that affects others is status symbols. Status symbols are not novel and yes exist on TQ today, but they mean something when someone undocks in a Raiju and proceeds to run circles around their competition – literally. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/144 "2022-08-21T20:06:09Z")
I can’t imagine the amount of isk necessary for it to become worthless. I guess that’s just what happens when you put in the years? ---
**Author:** ![A8ina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a8ina/32/396998_2.png) [@A8ina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A8ina)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/145 "2022-08-21T21:12:10Z")
The answer lies within Eve game story , what if you were able to hire NPC escort within the empire limits the better you’re standing with the function the less you pay for the escort and better quality of escort , That is nice also for missions your playing alone most of the time you’re going to have to split the profits but you going to have fun , The escort NPCs will be able to defend you and repair you depending the type of NPCs you select. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/146 "2022-08-22T04:41:15Z")
Yes, but do you really think that the carebears would go there? Especially if all these former highsec gankers are now gatecamping or hunting in lowsec where we driven them off, ie lowsec twice as dangerous as before? No, they would just quit. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/147 "2022-08-22T08:07:12Z")
Oh, this has a very easy solution. CCP should create a police force that automatically spawns and destroys players who illegally attack other players in low-sec. The response time can range from something like 5 seconds in a 0.4 system, to about 20 seconds in a 0.1 system. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/148 "2022-08-22T08:55:31Z")
> **[Cycle of Time](https://en.battlestarwiki.org/Cycle_of_Time)** > > The Cycle of Time, or the Cycle, is an inescapable recursion following a civilization's creation of synthetic life wherein the ultimate result is most often devastating, in apocalyptic proportions, to the detriment of aforesaid creators — in other... ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/149 "2022-08-22T12:24:14Z")
Of course they won’t go. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/150 "2022-08-28T05:48:28Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Cuz obviously nobody doin PvP in hi-sec, Didn’t you just link a Highsec hulk kill? ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/151 "2022-11-16T16:11:01Z")
i did and lost over three ships in 20 minutes ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/152 "2022-11-16T17:08:56Z")
Another one of these threads again? 😒 ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/153 "2022-11-16T21:30:47Z")
No not another one, a thread necroed after several months while in the meantime alpha clones have actually had their ability to initiate PvP in high sec removed so the OP got what he wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/154 "2022-11-16T22:05:48Z")
Yet the complains about alpha clone ganking didn’t stop. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/155 "2022-11-16T22:07:12Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > complains … didn’t stop They never do no matter the subject and if the subject is addressed they find something else to complain about. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/156 "2022-11-16T22:08:55Z")
Crybears gonna cry. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/157 "2022-11-16T22:22:37Z")
At work we have these yearly trainings that we have to take to be compliant, stuff like workplace safety, harassment, etc. Anyway, they are teaching now that visible/tangible harassment doesn’t actually have to take place for a person to “feel” harassed, and for it to be actionable. So for example if I’m wearing a red shirt and you feel “sexually harassed” by it, a complaint can be filed. And maybe it’s a frivolous complaint and won’t lead to anything, but it will still be _legitimate and considered._ And in practice will probably lead to some kind of “conversation” with me about wearing shirts of an “unappreciated” color because no one wants this to become a “thing” and for HR to get involved, even if it’s fundamentally stupid and nonsensical. So maybe Alpha ganking is the same thing? It never had to actually happen for players to be threatened by it, so it was “addressed” despite the idea of it being fundamentally stupid and nonsensical. And even now that it’s _impossible,_ some players are still threatened by it and complaining about it happening _in theory,_ therefore it’s still a problem that needs to be addressed further? CCP really needs to do something about the concept of Alpha ganking! Hypothetical scenarios in which it could occur are getting completely out of control! ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/158 "2022-11-16T22:24:18Z")
Hopefully these evil griefers will stop since they can not use their alpha clone gankers anymore!.. oh wait [CODE. | Alliance | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99002775/) 🥶 🥵 😭 ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/159 "2022-11-16T22:26:28Z")
Alphas can still be used as a fleet warp-in point on gank targets, scouts, cargo scanners, and also as loot scoopers after the gank. I’m sure that will be the next complaint… ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/160 "2022-11-16T22:34:19Z")
Yeah I’m sure the safe high sec lobby would be happy to restrict safety to green only (for both Alphas and Omegas) because then they could get rid of thieves, baiters and deployable shooters all in one go so they can rat and mine in 100% safety… until they meet a diamond rat (which they already complain about anyway) so they get rid of those next. 👀 ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/161 "2022-11-16T22:38:37Z")
Yep, they won’t be happy until there is absolutely no ganking allowed in high sec and it turns into an AFK botfest… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448.md?page=9)