# Alpha clone suicide ganking - plague of EVE

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**Created:** [June 18, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448 "2022-06-18T21:39:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-plague-of-eve/367448/46 "2022-06-19T03:32:48Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> Go play a different one then. EVE doesn’t represent itself as fair.

Well, I have to disagree with Scipio on this point -Eve is fair. In fact, one of it’s guiding principles was, “harsh, but fair.” And if any part of that is in doubt, it’s the “harsh” part.

Other than that, good post.

Now, to OP:  
You come in here making accusations without evidence, and then demand action be taken. Well, ganking isn’t the problem (or whaling for that matter). It’s players like you. Ganking is already balanced heavily in favor of prey, but rather than put forth the effort to learn how to not get ganked, you demand that your enemies be nerfed. And so, we end up with broken risk to reward ratios, play styles getting nerfed further and further into the ground, and all the challenge being sucked out of what was supposed to be a challenging game.

Eve online is indeed plagued by a… erm, plague. However, it isn’t alpha gankers, whalers, gate campers, war deckers, or any of the other player killers that have been vilified over the years. It’s the whinebears that perpetually ask for one more nerf.

> [@Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004):
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> Okay. Someone proposes a nerf to suicide ganking (or getting rid of it entirely) about twice a month. Rather than keep saying the same things over and over again, I figured I’d just create a catch all thread. 
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> > **Myth: Suicide ganking is unbalanced in favor of the gankers.**
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> > False. It is unbalanced, but actually in favor of prey. In fact, game mechanics stack the deck so heavily against suicide ganking, that sustainable ganking is entirely dependent on prey making at least one mistake, if not mor…

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