# Alpha Clone War Utilities \[ Large & Medium MJD, Salvager Drone, Sentry Drone and Cloking \] **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [September 7, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654 "2018-09-07T20:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stellah\_Audene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stellah_audene/32/95381_2.png) [@Stellah\_Audene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stellah_Audene)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/1 "2018-09-07T20:16:43Z")
This is something I would like for Alpha clones, the _micro jump drive_ and _cloaking_ would drive players into low-security, null and worm-hole systems that are more likely to survive for PvP and PvE, and for PvE it would be more rewarding to have _Salvage drones_ and _Sentry Drones_. That tell me, apart from that they vary the prices of the salvage materials, this would affect in some way in the game PvP? ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/2 "2018-09-07T20:19:36Z")
Cloaks are for running away, not for PVP. Alphas are supposed to die in PVP and have fun, not run away. Furthermore, cloaky alphas would mean hordes of cloaky campers in null sec. In essence: Alphas do not need cloaks because they are supposed to have fun instead of camping or running away. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/3 "2018-09-07T20:26:54Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Furthermore, cloaky alphas would mean hordes of cloaky campers in null sec Pretty much this. It’s annoying that I need to have alpha clones for rapid response fleets… having to have another alpha clone that I log in when I’m done playing to camp a system would be even more annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Stellah\_Audene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stellah_audene/32/95381_2.png) [@Stellah\_Audene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stellah_Audene)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/4 "2018-09-07T20:30:09Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Furthermore, cloaky alphas would mean hordes of cloaky campers in null sec. Maybe if you just take the skill to LV. 1 It would not be as profitable to hunt someone as it takes more than 20 seconds to recalibrate sensors; What do you tell me about the rest? ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/5 "2018-09-07T20:33:53Z")
That’s irrelevant. Cloaky camping means you just sit in a system and are a psychological barrier for the locals, which prevents them from using their space. That kind of camping should not come from a absolutely free account. ---
**Author:** ![Stellah\_Audene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stellah_audene/32/95381_2.png) [@Stellah\_Audene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stellah_Audene)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/6 "2018-09-07T20:40:44Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Cloaky camping means you just sit in a system and are a psychological barrier for the locals, which prevents them from using their space You convinced me 👍🏼 , the rest could be released, I think it would be gratifying to have salvage drones, sentry drones and MJD ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/7 "2018-09-07T21:18:27Z")
Stop asking for more alpha buffs. The whole point is to have a limited free account for new players, not to give alphas access to everything and eliminate the need to become a paying customer. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/8 "2018-09-08T04:24:54Z")
The idea is to entice you to subscribe not give you everything for free. Cloaks are especialy problematic mechanic which alfa should never get ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/9 "2018-09-08T19:15:28Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Furthermore, cloaky alphas would mean hordes of cloaky campers in null sec. Critically Important Comment -1 ---
**Author:** ![M\_Cincinnatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m_cincinnatus/32/258279_2.png) [@M\_Cincinnatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M_Cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/10 "2018-09-11T23:20:39Z")
I can see pros and cons to allowing alphas to use Large Micro Jump Drives. It could make things too easy on the one hand, but for some PvE, it could make them more survivable leading to less rage quitting I guess. Plus the LMJD kinda has a wow factor that they would not get to see otherwise unless they subbed. Perhaps the devs need to finally make a T2 version that is omega only, and nerf the T1 maybe. Kinda like how MWD’s are now. That would also provide a bit of skill sink. Everything else should definitely stay omega, if at least as motivation to sub. \_ +0.5 LMJD for alphas -1 everything else ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-war-utilities-large-medium-mjd-salvager-drone-sentry-drone-and-cloking/104654/11 "2018-12-10T23:28:49Z")
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