# Alpha restrictions. It's time to let go, CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** alpha, omega\ **Created:** [December 16, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726 "2023-12-16T08:51:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/1 "2023-12-16T08:51:14Z")
Greetings everyone! Greetings CCP! I didnt play a while and after i came back and login just to check how EVE’s doing i’m realize that alpha clones is sooo tied in their restrictions, there is not much things you could do to finally decide to return or not. I just twisted my ship in hangar (on which i cant even undock because of Alpha), fast check the market and leave for a better times. I think, CCP, you should revised the alpha restriction, give Aplha players more freedom at least in a basic things. While keep advanced activities like market tradind, PI to Omegas. So here’s the plan… Should gone for the greater good: ❌ - ships restrictions ❌ - SP cap limit ❌ - skills restrictions (except trading and PI) ❌ - any ship equipment/implants restrictions Should stay: ✅ - PI restrictions ✅ - market trading restrictions ✅ - contracts restrictions ✅ - agents and missions restrictions ✅ - daily activities and rewards restrictions Think that’s all… remind me if i forgot somethig. Thanks for understanding. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/2 "2023-12-16T09:19:29Z")
Alpha deserve nothing. ---
**Author:** ![ZephyrLexx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zephyrlexx/32/394291_2.png) [@ZephyrLexx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ZephyrLexx)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/3 "2023-12-16T09:24:52Z")
I’ve been meaning to ‘come back and play’ for like… 2 years now. I install, log in, collect the shitty daily, spin my ships and have a look at my carriers that I can’t undock in, check the monthly sub price, log out, don’t log in again for 2 weeks - decide to check out my ships again. Wait half an hour while the installer installs another 2gig update, spin my ships again, logout. 2 Weeks later I do the same thing. **I spend more time watching the launcher update than even spinning my ships.** Seriously what is with the constant updates? Feels like every 3 days there’s a huge update to download. How about waiting a month and sticking them all in one? I’ll reactivate when the prices drop. ---
**Author:** ![Josie\_McMiner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/josie_mcminer/32/397187_2.png) [@Josie\_McMiner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Josie_McMiner)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/4 "2023-12-16T10:17:46Z")
Someone believes in fairytales. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/5 "2023-12-16T10:24:00Z")
The why do you use Alpha class destroyers to perform ganks in? By your words, you deserve nothing because you pilot Alpha ships. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/6 "2023-12-16T10:24:56Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > i’m realize that alpha clones is sooo tied in their restrictions And quote rightly so. You are already getting more than you have paid for…whilst expecting those of us who _do_ pay for subscriptions to subsidize you even more ! ---
**Author:** ![Josie\_McMiner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/josie_mcminer/32/397187_2.png) [@Josie\_McMiner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Josie_McMiner)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/7 "2023-12-16T10:40:16Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Alpha class destroyers 😅 Alpha Class Destroyers 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/8 "2023-12-16T10:43:18Z")
It’s obvious the man has no clue. There is no “alpha class” in EvE. ---
**Author:** ![Akrasjel\_Lanate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akrasjel_lanate/32/389758_2.png) [@Akrasjel\_Lanate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akrasjel_Lanate)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/9 "2023-12-16T10:46:20Z")
Alphas are, an unlimited trial period. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/10 "2023-12-16T10:55:07Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > I > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Should gone for the greater good No, you mean for _your_ benefit. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/11 "2023-12-16T10:59:20Z")
I’m not asking for same as Omega, but current Alpha is pointless. Halved training speed and like i said, restrictions to advanced high-profit activities like market or PI is enough. No need to block ships or skills. ---
**Author:** ![Josie\_McMiner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/josie_mcminer/32/397187_2.png) [@Josie\_McMiner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Josie_McMiner)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/12 "2023-12-16T11:03:41Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > current Alpha is pointless. Nothing is pointless if you’re having fun at it. > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Halved training speed It isn’t Alpha that’s halved, it’s Omega that’s doubled. CCP is very generous to even let us use as many ships and modules as they allow right now. If you want it all for free play PlanetSide2 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/13 "2023-12-16T11:09:51Z")
> [@Josie\_McMiner](#): > > It isn’t Alpha that’s halved, it’s Omega that’s doubled. No, it’s Alpha halved. “X2 taining speed” is marketing move. Everyone know that omega training speed is asme as before alpha even existed, so it’s not doubled for omega, it’s **halved** for alpha ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/14 "2023-12-16T11:14:23Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > I’m not asking for same as Omega, but current Alpha is pointless. > Halved training speed and like i said, restrictions to advanced high-profit activities like market or PI is enough. > > No need to block ships or skills. No. Why should you get more…for zero cost…of what others are _paying_ for ? You are already getting a substantial amount for nothing, and I think those who _are_ paying for the game would and quite rightly should complain if you got more. ---
**Author:** ![Josie\_McMiner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/josie_mcminer/32/397187_2.png) [@Josie\_McMiner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Josie_McMiner)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/15 "2023-12-16T11:14:34Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > No, it’s Alpha halved No, it’s Omega that’s doubled and I’m sure @Mike_Azariah and @Brisc_Rubal would agree. > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > “X2 taining speed” is marketing move X2 training speed is the truth. > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Everyone know You’re in everyone’s head that you know what they know. You just shot your credibility in the foot. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/16 "2023-12-16T11:26:36Z")
Is this thread just a “why should I pay CCP money to fly the ships I want to fly” thread? EVE is a subscription-based game. If you want the game to exist for you to play, _someone_ has to CCP money. It’s only logical that there are restrictions on the free trial so that people are encouraged to eventually become paying players, as there would not be a game to play for those players if no one paid. ---
**Author:** ![Yarda\_Black](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yarda_black/32/373282_2.png) [@Yarda\_Black](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yarda_Black)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/17 "2023-12-16T11:29:28Z")
Troll-topic. Pops up every 2-3 months. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/18 "2023-12-16T11:45:40Z")
Alpha Access is a _free gift_, acutally financed by all the Omega Players to support those who could otherwise not afford to play the game at all. And to greet and welcome those who like to try the game for some time before they decide if they want to join or not. There is _nothing_ to complain about it, instead everyone should be _thankful_ for that option. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/19 "2023-12-16T11:47:05Z")
more players = more possible income. All F2P games based on this. Why you think EVE is different? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726/20 "2023-12-16T11:48:03Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > more players = more possible income. > All F2P games based on this. > > Why you think EVE is different? Why would there be more possible income if those players don’t need to pay to play? Right now every player will eventually hit the point that they want to do something better. Fly a better ship. Get more SP. You remove the need to go omega for those players. They won’t pay. If I can fly a dread for free but have to pay for daily quests, what do you think I would do? I would spin up a dozen free dread alts. And ignore the daily quests. In fact, I’m already ignoring the daily quests anyway. From your list: > [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Should gone for the greater good: > ❌ - ships restrictions > ❌ - SP cap limit > ❌ - skills restrictions (except trading and PI) > ❌ - any ship equipment/implants restrictions > > Should stay: > ✅ - PI restrictions > ✅ - market trading restrictions > ✅ - contracts restrictions > ✅ - agents and missions restrictions > ✅ - daily activities and rewards restrictions I only use the top 4 and PI. I can live without PI (especially if doing PI means I need to pay a subscription), so I could stop paying subscriptions and still get everything I want in this game. That’s not a good business model for CCP. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-restrictions-its-time-to-let-go-ccp/432726.md?page=2)