# Alphas and highsec pvp **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [July 6, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019 "2021-07-06T13:29:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/121 "2021-07-11T00:43:06Z")
First of all if you and your expensive hauler, or whatever you happen to be flying, get ganked by an alpha clone that says a lot for that alpha clone and since you look down on them should be rather embarrassing to you. I admire them and think little of your proposal. Second, alpha clones have an opinion of working their ass off, hopefully by making your life harder, and plexing their accounts. By doing so they are paying for their accounts the same as you are, they just don’t hold it over your head. Third, there is no way you can tell if someone is an alpha clone unless they tell you they are, so where are you getting your information from exactly? You say there are loads of them in every system in any major pipe? Prove it. You go on to state that you hunt them thinking they are omega only to find out that they have low skill points (correct me if I misread your somewhat muddled sentence please) by looking at Zkillboard, I wasn’t aware Zkillboard could provide information like how many skill points someone has. So… What was your argument exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/122 "2021-07-11T00:44:16Z")
You should see what my hat does to my hair, you think the game is broken? I went bald! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/123 "2021-07-11T00:46:52Z")
Praise Aiko Danuja, True Savior of Highsec! ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/b/3/5b39e07896f872749e5cadebb44c17b7fbc6b00d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/124 "2021-07-11T00:55:25Z")
I don’t sweat things as much as you do then. I’m much older but still have all my hair with little grey. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/125 "2021-07-11T00:57:53Z")
Clearly CCP didn’t make you hat. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/126 "2021-07-11T01:00:27Z")
It’s often said that **bald** men are more **virile**. The popular theory is that they have higher levels of the male hormone testosterone, which makes them more masculine and increases their sex drive, but they lose their hair at a younger age than average as a result ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/127 "2021-07-11T01:05:21Z")
Hahahahaha!!! That’s … I don’t even know where to start, thank you! ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/128 "2021-07-11T01:19:11Z")
I don’t need a hat in game or rl! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/129 "2021-07-11T01:36:02Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > And account cancelations? Who actually cancels their account? And who fills out a survey before doing so, a When you unsubscribe (which you have to do if you want CCP to stop billing you) they ask why. ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/130 "2021-07-11T01:37:46Z")
I just tried one on… It looked terrible, now I drop them and other nothing stuff outside of random stations when I end up with it. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/131 "2021-07-11T01:45:40Z")
Damm, when will younger players learn. Keep all that crap. You never know when CCP might fulfill that April fools joke! ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/132 "2021-07-11T04:16:17Z")
> [@Fale\_Einn](#): > > When you unsubscribe (which you have to do if you want CCP to stop billing you) they ask why. Is that field optional or not? If not, how much effort do you suppose people put into it? It all amounts to the same thing. Few bother with technically unsubbing and those who do obviously have no investement in the future of the game so are unlikely to go the extra mile to help. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/133 "2021-07-11T13:51:26Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You can _keep_ the cats You don’t like Binkers anymore? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/0/e/50e2959bab950ecd2b96740752183a74eb52940c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/134 "2021-07-11T21:30:53Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Is that field optional or not? If not, how much effort do you suppose people put into it? > > It all amounts to the same thing. Few bother with technically unsubbing and those who do obviously have no investement in the future of the game so are unlikely to go the extra mile to help. So according to you there is effectively no data about how many players quit because of ganking because they all quit silently. But you somehow just know that it’s an issue because you feel it in your guts? ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/135 "2021-07-11T21:58:09Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Is that field optional or not? If not, how much effort do you suppose people put into it? It’s optional, takes a few seconds and gives you the option to say why you are unsubscribing (strangely @CCP_Rattati isn’t an option but you can name him if you like). This is for people paying with credit cards or whatever. I don’t know what they ask, if anything, when people biomass. Ok, so there’s that… Then there this: > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > It all amounts to the same thing. Few bother with technically unsubbing and those who do obviously have no investement in the future of the game so are unlikely to go the extra mile to help. ■■■■■■■■. First of all you have (I feel like I’m repeating myself here) no idea how many people actually unsubscribe, if CCP wanted you to know that you would likely be under an NDA and not allowed to tell us this tripe. Second, everyone who unsubscribes (and I don’t mean biomassing) has to “technically unsubscribe” in order to stop being charged by CCP, unless there’s some option I’m unaware of. On top of all that there are people who unsubscribe in whatever way who are heavily invested in this game, I’m one of them. As for _how many_ have done this only CCP knows that and I’m reasonably sure they didn’t tell you about it or give you a spreadsheet detailing who unsubscribed and when they did it let alone for what reason. There’s a hint in this post about why I did and what I told them in their questionnaire and that, if you manage to guess my reason will be literally your only data point. I suppose if you do guess you could use your own data to say “few” when talking about how many people do this, but that’s pretty useless information. ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/136 "2021-07-11T22:05:40Z")
What April fool’s joke? TELL ME!!! I’M YOUNG AND IMPATIENT AND I MUST KNOW! ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/137 "2021-07-11T22:33:29Z")
I have container after container of biomass. The joke was CCP was going to allow you to reprocess them! 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/138 "2021-07-11T22:38:20Z")
Oh my god… Into what? Soylent Green? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/139 "2021-07-11T23:12:26Z")
> [@Fale\_Einn](#): > > Soylent Green? [Fertilizer - EVE Online Reference (everef.net)](https://everef.net/type/3693) I started collecting biomass **long** before the joke came out. Lotta Goon’s in those crates. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019/140 "2021-07-12T23:27:22Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You don’t like Binkers anymore? > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/0/e/50e2959bab950ecd2b96740752183a74eb52940c.jpeg) I will admit that I am starting to miss Binkers. However, I also heavily suspect that Binkers was the one who slashed the tires on my vintage Dodge Charger the last time I came over to play Dungeons and Dragons, which coincidentally was the day that I forgot to purchase the catnip. 🤔 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alphas-and-highsec-pvp/319019.md?page=8)