# AMA - CCP Acquisiton by Pearl Abyss! Starts at 16:30 UTC!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** official, ama\
**Created:** [September 7, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473 "2018-09-07T13:03:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 35

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/709 "2018-09-08T14:36:56Z")

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Please do not underestimate company culture.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/710 "2018-09-08T14:40:22Z")

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Nope, you bought servce and accept NO RETURN option in EULA

😆

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/711 "2018-09-08T14:42:09Z")

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> [@CCP\_Guard](#):
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> This was the most likely strategy up until the point our consultants delivered a risk assessment report on Corp Theft & Awoxing.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

First true and direct answer

/me dance

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/712 "2018-09-08T14:44:13Z")

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> [@Zachri](#):
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> You really should move to Amsterdam

Did they improve redundancy of their power grid ???

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**Author:** ![Rammix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rammix/32/423555_2.png) [@Rammix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rammix)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/713 "2018-09-08T14:59:45Z")

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Will “World of Darkness” ever be resurrected?

I think PA might be very interested in such a project.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/714 "2018-09-08T15:06:22Z")

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uhmm  
sarcasm i guess o.o

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/715 "2018-09-08T15:14:46Z")

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They don’t own the IP anymore, sold White Wolf & all its assets to Paradox Games.

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**Author:** ![Rammix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rammix/32/423555_2.png) [@Rammix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rammix)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/716 "2018-09-08T15:15:38Z")

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Thanks, didn’t know that.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/717 "2018-09-08T15:24:31Z")

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Did CCP buy White Wolf, or just an exclusive license to develop a computer game off their IP.

I thought it was the latter.

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**Author:** ![Strinyth\_heart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/strinyth_heart/32/145616_2.png) [@Strinyth\_heart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Strinyth_heart)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/718 "2018-09-08T15:28:17Z")

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They bought white wolf in 2006

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**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/719 "2018-09-08T15:32:21Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> Did they improve redundancy of their power grid ???

Best powergrid in the world. It’s awesome. You’ll love it. You can even get flavoured electricity.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/720 "2018-09-08T16:31:39Z")

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Well, they merged, then CCP sold some of WW’s RPGs to a new company called Onyx and then CCP sold what was left of White Wolf and the WoD IP to Paradox:

> **[White Wolf Publishing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wolf_Publishing)**
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> White Wolf Publishing is a roleplaying game and book publisher. The company was founded in 1991 as a merger between Lion Rampant and White Wolf Magazine (est. 1986 in Rocky Face, GA; it later became "White Wolf Inphobia"), and was initially led by Mark Rein·Hagen of the former and Steve Wieck and Stewart Wieck of the latter. Since White Wolf Publishing, Inc. merged with CCP Games in 2006, White Wolf Publishing has been an imprint of CCP hf, but has ceased in-house production of any materi White...

So currently I think that Onyx could publish some of the other RPG games, but Paradox owns the WoD IP and what’s left of White Wolf.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/721 "2018-09-08T16:59:39Z")

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Yeah, I read up on it.

Damn, White Wolfs IPs, of which there are many, are amazing content and they created their entire para-world that co-exists with IRL. Any one of them is “ready-made” for an MMO.

I legit bought and read White Wolf RPG game system publications by the dozens, just to read how awesome their infiltration of lore into history is.

Oh well.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Explorer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_explorer/32/385081_2.png) [@CCP\_Explorer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Explorer)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/722 "2018-09-08T17:42:01Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Wow, that’s quite a bit of time, seems like there’s always been a FanFest happening each year. Will this be the first time there’s no FanFest happening since it was first implemented?

There was no Fanfest in 2010, as we moved the timing from autumn 2009 to spring 2011.

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**Author:** ![Auran\_Glimmer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auran_glimmer/32/375146_2.png) [@Auran\_Glimmer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auran_Glimmer)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/723 "2018-09-08T17:57:59Z")

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There’s been a number of people raise concerns that scamming and/or highsec ganking could be banned (or massively nerfed) by the new owners. I know you probably can’t _guarantee_ anything (since if they decide to ban scamming a year from now, you can’t say no anymore), but can you at least promise _significant pushback_ if that kind of directive comes down from on high? 😛

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/724 "2018-09-08T18:18:27Z")

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> [@Auran\_Glimmer](#):
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> but can you at least promise _significant pushback_ if that kind of directive comes down from on high?

Can you read what you just write ???  
PA OWN 100% of CPP and CCP is their to last paper in toilet !!!

PA - boss  
CPP - bought worker

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**Author:** ![Auran\_Glimmer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auran_glimmer/32/375146_2.png) [@Auran\_Glimmer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auran_Glimmer)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/725 "2018-09-08T18:20:17Z")

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I know, I just wanna know if they’d implement that without question, or whether they’d try to explain to PA that banning scamming would be bad for Eve.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/726 "2018-09-08T18:28:27Z")

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Nothing is changing. CCP has complete control. PA doesn’t wanna change anything about it. CCP still has hilmar in control. Instead of financial investors who care about bottom dime, they have a game company instead.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/727 "2018-09-08T19:05:27Z")

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My expectation is CCP has 6-24months to show they can keep up (and probably grow) revenue, to get a bonus.

If CCP cant deliver, they lose the bonus carrot AND PA will invariably start sticking its fingers into the CCP pie to increase revenue as PA sees fit.

So the contract of sale gives CCP an opportunity and incentive to keep up revenue past a certain point, for a certain duration, to prove they are profitable, as they themselves run the company and EVE.

If they cant, the bonus carrot is withdrawn, and the whip comes out.

Ironically, this might mean that CCP and EVE is already doomed as we know it.  
Cos if CCP fails to meet the terms of the bonus, PA steps in, and the bonus is lost,  
And if CCP succeeds, the bonus is earned, and CCP staff jumps ship, cos they got the bonus and what else is there to work for under another owner.

Hilmar himself also sold his stake, so he no longer benefits from the success of CCP directly, except perhaps as bonuses from PA if CCP does well, as CEO of CCP.

So it would seem EVE is screwed, either way, within the next two years.

Start the countdown clock.

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**Author:** ![Veryez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veryez/32/508712_2.png) [@Veryez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veryez)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ama-ccp-acquisiton-by-pearl-abyss-starts-at-16-30-utc/104473/728 "2018-09-08T20:34:36Z")

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I get it, we’re all nervous about P2W in EvE, and it appears CCP has no plans at current. So lets ask a few other questions…

1. Since you’ve known (or suspected) about this for a few months, for those @ CCP who have looked at BDO, What features impress you the most?

2. What’s the top 3 things that BDO does that gets CCP Devs thinking, That would be cool in EvE.

3. From the press statements from both CCP and PA, it appears CCP could be considered a division within PA. PA stock has responded very positively to the announcement. So as an investor, are there any discussions of CCP going public? Is it even on the table at this point?

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