# An interesting idea of ending Minmatar-Amarr conflict **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666 "2017-11-01T03:19:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/423 "2017-11-13T20:22:58Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > What we need to do, is to build a wall between the Minmatar and Amarr areas of space. Nobody has come up with a better idea than this one. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/424 "2017-11-13T20:26:20Z")
Trust me, there are better ideas. I might just make a real thread for it. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/425 "2017-11-13T21:06:06Z")
If your idea is a wall that would be taller than my proposed wall, and has tassels on it, I am going to be MOST ANNOYED. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/426 "2017-11-13T23:20:24Z")
> [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#): > > For a self proclaimed Caldari officer Stop flooding forums with your lies about me, troll. I repeat, I was given rank by Caldari State. Any citizen knows this, and any non-entity shall not be worried about that. Why you keep talking that nonsence, are you hallucinating? > [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#): > > you seem pretty mad Only if you have delusions. On the other hand, it’s you who seem pretty mad, both by your behavior and your futile and inane attacks on Caldari Officers. What the State did to you for you to behave so stupid and agressive, attacking with nothing but lies so outrageous, that even dumbest of readers won’t believe your words? ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/427 "2017-11-13T23:36:50Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > I was given rank by Caldari State. Prove it! Preferably with an image or a news report specifically stating this, since you’d be one of the first Capsuleers to do so. Really! I insist. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/428 "2017-11-13T23:44:26Z")
I don’t have to prove obvious things to infamous trolls. Juse begone. Oh, also for those, who are extra myopic, they can find my rank in my CONCORD information page. Don’t forget glasses to actually read it! And yes, I don’t have to prove any of my words about myself. But I can prove all my words about you, if you are interested. ---
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/429 "2017-11-13T23:46:51Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Only if you have delusions. On the other hand, it’s you who seem pretty mad, both by your behavior and your futile and inane attacks on Caldari Officers. What the State did to you for you to behave so stupid and agressive, attacking with nothing but lies so outrageous, that even dumbest of readers won’t believe your words? For a self proclaimed Caldari officer you seem woefully unable to present what units you command, or even to verify where you are in the hierarchy of the SAF. Trying to conflate yourself and the State as you did means nothing, because you have no authority and you’re just one person with no power to enforce anything except being loud on the IGS. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/430 "2017-11-13T23:50:19Z")
Alright, alright. Let’s at least give her this much. She _does_ have a StaPro rank. Thousands of pilots do. Winds, _I_ have a StaPro rank. The difference between Diana Kim and the rest of us is that while we believe it confers some minor recognition, she believes it confers absolute authority. That, and none of the rest of us demand that anyone else bend themselves into strange shapes demonstrating obeisance. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/431 "2017-11-13T23:52:34Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > she believes it confers absolute authority. You are just a troll and liar, Priano. I never ever claimed my rank “confers absolute authority”, so could you please close your hateful bile fountain for a moment and let people talk without your interference? ---
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/432 "2017-11-14T00:09:14Z")
Well that’s the thing. STPRO like every militia is full of “Generals” which seems impressive until it is recognized anyone can reach such a rank in well under a month in most cases for doing missions – the primary motivation of which is not service but profit. This is essentially what is so laughable about Diana Kim, that she expects militia ranks confer authority and recognition to be respected when the effort required to earn them is for a capsuleer about as much as getting them for free out of a cereal box. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/433 "2017-11-14T00:14:17Z")
For Maker’s sake, why every dumb troll tries to claim I ever expected authority and recognition from rank, bestowed on my by the State, from a common rabble? So, “dear trolls”, if you so love making your own claims and then refute them, go do it in front of mirror in your quarters to stroke your ego, but leave the IGS and me away from your useless rants. D. Kim, Strike Commander, State Protectorate, CMC, Caldari State ---
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/434 "2017-11-14T00:26:16Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > For Maker’s sake, why every dumb troll tries to claim I ever expected authority and recognition from rank, bestowed on my by the State, from a common rabble? Because you are the one who brings it up at every opportunity like it is meaningful or relevant: > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > D. Kim, Strike Commander, > > State Protectorate, CMC, > > Caldari State ---
**Author:** ![Elmund\_Egivand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elmund_egivand/32/11038_2.png) [@Elmund\_Egivand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elmund_Egivand)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/435 "2017-11-14T01:17:04Z")
Getting rank in the militia organisations requires the persistence to run that treadmill like a good little rodent. And I still can’t get free weekly coffee with it. My membership card, on the other hand, does give me free coffee once a week. My rank is worth less than the membership card that I spent about 100 of that planetary currency per annum on. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/436 "2017-11-14T02:37:42Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > they can find my rank in my CONCORD information page You mean the one you can edit yourself? Yeah, that’s trustworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/437 "2017-11-14T02:39:23Z")
Actually, something occurred to me. Kim, you’ve said Tibus Heth isn’t guilty until he’s tried. However, he _has_ been charged with crimes. Let us say you were to find an escape pod with Tibus Heth, alive, aboard. Would you then remand him to the custody of the CEP or of Kaalakiota? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/438 "2017-11-14T07:56:39Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > You mean the one you can edit yourself? Yeah, that’s trustworthy. For ESPECIALLY incompetent pilots, who couldn’t get grip with NeoCom interface for so long, I’ll give explanation: It is in “Decoration, Ranks” tab, that pilots can’t edit themselves. I thought they should have taught at least minimum knowledge in the academies before letting tribals use hydrostatic capsules. D. Kim, Strike Commander, State Protectorate, CMC, Caldari State ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/439 "2017-11-14T07:59:16Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > Kim, you’ve said Tibus Heth isn’t guilty until he’s tried. However, he has been charged with crimes. Let us say you were to find an escape pod with Tibus Heth, alive, aboard. Would you then remand him to the custody of the CEP or of Kaalakiota? I am neither CEP, nor Kaalakiota employee for that. I’d bring him either to Protectorate, to Caldari Navy or directly to Caldari Business Tribunal. The man deserves to restore his honor from all these stupid charges against him. ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/440 "2017-11-14T08:00:29Z")
_hands DK a shovel_ To help you dig faster. ---
**Author:** ![Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pieter_tuulinen/32/155371_2.png) [@Pieter\_Tuulinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pieter_Tuulinen)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/441 "2017-11-14T16:10:35Z")
Well, you can imagine how much of a fan I am of trading your culture and freedom for safety… Not. We were a single-world polity that took on a multi-star culture and lived to tell the tale - but the price has been high and I understand that not everyone might feel the same about it. Ask Aldrith how he feels about the Ni-Kunni’s fate in the Empire. He seems content enough to me. That said, it was never my intention to sugar-coat what was done, nor to support it. The truth of it is that the Empire had the power to do it and they did it. The Ealur fought against it. The Ni-Kunni embraced it. Each race’s fate is their own. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666/442 "2017-11-16T10:29:25Z")
He does seem content. Which still doesn’t make it right. Perhaps it’s simply an odd facet of the Ni-Kunni. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-interesting-idea-of-ending-minmatar-amarr-conflict/35666.md?page=23)