# An NPC Casino

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [August 30, 2019, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695 "2019-08-30T03:08:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/21 "2019-08-30T23:48:33Z")

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Kids. Real money. And gambling.

What could go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/22 "2019-08-31T05:25:45Z")

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I already read that part, the question is how do you propose to do so?

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/23 "2019-08-31T05:26:31Z")

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Worked before without issue, and Star Trek Online and other games with near official gambling with lockboxes or ingame dabo tables never seem to cause any issues.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/24 "2019-08-31T05:59:16Z")

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Do you not know what “ISK fountains” are? I said to reduce those…that does not need to be explained.

Same goes for resources…this is not rocket science.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/25 "2019-08-31T06:19:27Z")

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I’m assuming you mean a direct nerf to incursions, ratting, missions, invasion/sleeper NPC buy orders, insurance etc. Instead of harming people’s gameplay, why not add more sinks? A great sink would be an NPC casino.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/26 "2019-08-31T06:22:29Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Do you not know what “ISK fountains” are? I said to reduce those…that does not need to be explained.
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> Same goes for resources…this is not rocket science.

And he asked you how would you do it?

Obviously you don’t know or you would have answered the question.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/27 "2019-08-31T06:24:00Z")

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**reduce**  
/rɪˈdjuːs,rɪˈdʒuːs/  
_verb_

1. 
  1. make smaller or less in amount, degree, or size.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/28 "2019-08-31T06:28:07Z")

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Yeah just as I thought, you don’t have any idea at all on how to reduce ‘ISK / Resource Fountains’ in Eve.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/29 "2019-08-31T06:28:34Z")

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Yeah just as I thought, you don’t know basic English.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/30 "2019-08-31T06:35:01Z")

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Your attempt to redirect attention is a fail, please answer the question:

How would you reduce ISK and Resource Fountains in Eve?

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/31 "2019-08-31T06:36:52Z")

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Reduce the ISK paid…Reduce the frequency…reduce the spawn-rate…

Resources would be the same…reduced belts…reduced respawn rates…reduced ore counts…

You know, just generally reduce everything.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/32 "2019-08-31T06:38:19Z")

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That won’t help, all that will do is encourage the creation of more alt farms.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/33 "2019-08-31T06:39:20Z")

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So you are saying that scares resources do not create pressures on those that rely on them?

Please do go on…

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/34 "2019-08-31T06:44:21Z")

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Where did I say that? Oh yeah, nowhere.

I hope you were talking about Null Sec space because that’s where the problem is.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/35 "2019-08-31T06:48:08Z")

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Of course this is about NS…

More alt farms, while they have their own issues, are FAR more preferred that the gush of ISK coming out of NS…

**Reduce…it’s just that simple ™**

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/36 "2019-08-31T06:51:25Z")

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Sorry, but alt farms is not the answer. In fact that’s the reason for all the excess ISK and Resources currently in the game.

But that’s getting off topic, as for this thread topic, currently CCP won’t implement Gambling into the game right now. However since PA is the new owners, it may just happen in a future expansion.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/37 "2019-08-31T06:57:08Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Sorry, but alt farms is not the answer. In fact that’s the reason for all the excess ISK and Resources currently in the game.

Never said alt farms were the answer…I was just replying to your point. No, the main reason for excess ISK are the Rorq fleets and PvE farmers in NS. The latter being a fountain and the former being the base needed (ie core resource) to build fleets/supers and other such goodies. Reduce those and a chain reaction will start that will see NE revitalized…

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/38 "2019-08-31T08:00:59Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> No, the main reason for excess ISK are the Rorq fleets and PvE farmers in NS.

Yeah, alt farms.

> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Reduce those and a chain reaction will start that will see NE revitalized…

The only reaction that will cause is the creation of more alts to make up for the reduction.

The OP is right about one thing, what’s really needed is another ISK sink.

The Blackout and the Invasions won’t destroy enough and I doubt the newly increased taxes on Market sales and Broker Fees will have much of an effect either. If anything, CCP should probably look into maybe selling War Bonds or place a levy on all structures and call it an ‘Anchor’ tax.

Lore wise it could be implemented to help fund the war effort against Invasions.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/39 "2019-08-31T08:04:05Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> more alts to make up for the reduction

Please explain how more alts will create the ores needed to build ships. More SP farms will just water-down the market and be self defeating.

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> what’s really needed is another ISK sink.

Conflict from reduced resources…easy.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-npc-casino/186695/40 "2019-08-31T08:28:29Z")

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Come on, are you serious? Reducing a fountain won’t remove the very large pool sitting at it’s base, only a sink will do that.

Each farmer has an area they operate in and their farms bring in a specific amount of income that’s generated each day, week, month, etc. If CCP reduces the resources, the farmer will just increase his area of operation and create more alts to make up for the difference.

They’ve been growing and getting fat with ISK and Resources for a long time now, it’s cheaper and more economical for them to just increase their alt farm instead of going to war, which is the reason for the current issue.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic and out of respect for the OP, I’m done debating this with you. If you want to continue this discussion, create a new thread and post your ideas to ‘Reduce ISK and Resource Fountains’ there.

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