# An Open and Honest Letter to CCP from an Alliance Leader **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 10, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870 "2022-10-10T20:47:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/467 "2022-10-11T20:42:40Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen you in game, let alone shot at you, so I don’t consider us ‘enemies’ Of course a King doesnt regard a peasant as his enemy, we are beneath your notice. But acting surprised that people hate what you stand for is just nonsense. But yeah, feel free to file it away under “RP” if its what you want to do. None of us own actual soaceships, so its all just RP at the end of the day, but when your side goes to CCP and demands changes explictly for themselves, and screw everyone else, that goes a bit beyond “RP”. Its clear that the rest of space may eat cake, in the fictional words of Marieanne. But at the same time keep saying we arent enemies as you turn the resource tap off slowly to the rest of space, choke the supply lines and destroy anything you cannot own. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/468 "2022-10-11T20:43:38Z")
Hop in some black ops and blow up marauders then or something. The only thing stopping you shooting the nullsec krabbers in the face is your own fear. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/469 "2022-10-11T20:45:20Z")
You seem confused. You cant make up your mind if you are shooting krabs or loving them. Im going to just put you down as a krab’s alt. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/470 "2022-10-11T20:46:30Z")
It couldn’t be simpler. It’s hard to shoot krabs in nullsec if they’re running abyssals in jita or quit the game. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/471 "2022-10-11T20:46:57Z")
How did you know that I was afraid of PvP? It’s a secret that I’ve worked _very hard_ to keep hidden. Could it be because I don’t go to where the _ **REAL** _ PvPers live in order to do honorable battle with _ **REAL** _ skilled and powerful warriors? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/472 "2022-10-11T20:47:20Z")
Oh and Id like to make it clear Ive applied for a Null Corp to see who is right. That post was deleted by the ISD. So much for peaceful coexistence. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/473 "2022-10-11T20:47:59Z")
> [@Katya\_Itzimaru](#): > > quit the game One can hope ---
**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/474 "2022-10-11T21:08:09Z")
Can we all just agree that ESS payouts should be once per calendar year? ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Nightwalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jay_nightwalker/32/337477_2.png) [@Jay\_Nightwalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jay_Nightwalker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/475 "2022-10-11T21:16:19Z")
can we just all agree we need more people to shoot at ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/477 "2022-10-11T22:35:49Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > One would have to be _absolutely daft_ to not discern the intention behind the OP’s desires. Disguising them with a thin veil of concern for the health of the game and player retention doesn’t change the self-serving ideals of the ideas presented. > > If you see “people needing a reason to undock” as a fundamental issue the game has, then it’s not a matter of activities being “rewarding enough,” but an issue of the game being an unfulfilling and unentertaining experience to _actually play._ Do you _get_ it? If your game is full of activities that “pay a lot” but are an absolute chore to perform, people are going to devote themselves to grinding your game, but they won’t _feel good or say good things about it._ That’s why all these null krabs are your biggest critics, despite being some of the game’s most dedicated players. > > I’ll give you a personal example. When I undock and go shoot players in my high-sec wars, loot/money is far from the biggest thought on my mind. I do it because it’s _entertaining and feels great_ to do it, even if it barely makes me any money. It makes me feel so good, that I think very highly of the game despite hardly being “rewarded” for playing it. > > You want miners (for example) to feel great about playing the game? Make mining actually _fun._ I don’t know, maybe let miners explode asteroids with huge-ass weapons and make the flying chunks destroy everything in their path except heavily-shielded targets. Make asteroids have rare finds inside, like finding gems or a gold vein in a cave in real life, to create a “gold rush” mentality as players scramble to get out of their hangars in order to grab a piece of the ultra-valuable materials. > > Just boosting the yield on some type of rock by 15% isn’t going to give players more of a “reason to undock.” They’ll have more money in their wallets, but they’ll be just as dissatisfied with your game as they always were. Hi y’all I don’t have much to say. Just thought I’d repost the best post in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/478 "2022-10-11T23:04:09Z")
let me put it here to because i think is very important for EVE because I’m seeing CCP yet again taking a sub optimal path wen it comes to low sec please devs try to look videos and words of people that understand low like this one > [@What would be a good high dps ship](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-would-be-a-good-high-dps-ship/379849/24): > > super cute video > a dad and his kid doing good old FW > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/3/f/d3feadd26eb51281442b8a87aff2e90e05e57d1e.jpeg "EVE PVP, Lasker & Son: 365 DPS Brawling Maulus") > > [EVE PVP, Lasker & Son: 365 DPS Brawling Maulus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCgRwiGv8As) > > people may think what they want but > amarr FW IS SO DAM NICE > > check it out 🔝 > > and BTW to CCP DEVS and other noobs , this is FW , low is not null , think about how you will promote THIS ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/479 "2022-10-12T00:01:23Z")
> [@Katya\_Itzimaru](#): > > [Rorqual | Chantal Vance | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103713364/) "Final Blow @Nana_Skalski " ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/3/93fc4a9f52656f0ec49ecd0088ab047a7df61c38.gif) # UP SKALKSKI! ---
**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/480 "2022-10-12T01:03:03Z")
> [@Jay\_Nightwalker](#): > > can we just all agree we need more people to shoot at! Does not seem too difficult? Just undock and start blasting away. Heck do not even need to leave jita! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/481 "2022-10-12T01:08:45Z")
> [@Darek\_DeVries](#): > > Sorry about your playstyle friend. Are you talking to yourself or 😃 > [@Darek\_DeVries](#): > > I would but there’s so much salt from you 3-4 anti-null-spergers that it’s clogging any attempt to meaningfull discussion Bro let’s not front. You can’t add anything meaningful discussion either 😃 > [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > this utterly retarded Blackout crap Wut. There should be blackout in all sectors of space 😃 > [@hashx87](#): > > do you really want to mine or raft for 30 days to just plex your accounts?? No I just pay the 20 for the one. Why would I want to spend my free time in a second online space job? In the end, we need more content and more player agency. We need more ways to kill, scam and outsmart each other. Stories are only made when you risk real loss. No one has cool WoW stories, except for ones that involve PvP. All of my cool SWG stories? From PvP. Yennoe what was insanely boring but had to be done? Hours of group grinding missions on Dant to PL my template so I could PvP. Make being out in space needed again. Make content in asteroid belts. At moons. Make people take risks that can actually get them caught out. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/482 "2022-10-12T01:14:18Z")
All my cool stories are now mostly 10 yrs old. Maybe the Dev’s should read this thd instead? [What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? - Communications Center / General Discussion - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755) ---
**Author:** ![Omnis\_Decline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omnis_decline/32/335677_2.png) [@Omnis\_Decline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omnis_Decline)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/483 "2022-10-12T01:43:56Z")
> [@Zhon\_Maynard\_Keynes](#): > > I’m opposed to the BRM having a 100% floor. At that point it’s just removing the BRM system. A better solution I think would be to make anything below 100% just go towards the ESS bank (same structure, some in main bank, some in reserve). That way the ESS bank makes sense too. If the BRM scales from some lower minimum up to 100%, keeping the same scaling but changing the labels on the values so the minimum is 100% and it scales up from there would give the _impression_ of the minimum being a “baseline” value and anything higher being a “bonus” while not actually changing the effect of those numbers. I can see a valid argument for a change like this to make players not feel like they’re having bounty profits “stolen” from them by the BRM. It makes the larger values feel like a reward, instead of making the lower values feel like a punishment. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/484 "2022-10-12T01:48:39Z")
> [@Omnis\_Decline](#): > > keeping the same scaling but changing the labels Yah, like instead of saying it’s 50%, they could call it 150%. Nice! 💰 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/485 "2022-10-12T02:04:14Z")
I don’t know which is worse - highsec crybabies making death threats for their fallen ventures, or nullsec megalomaniacs screaming for more isk and more power. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/486 "2022-10-12T02:39:10Z")
Why does one have to be worse than the other? They can both be _equally_ bad by complementing each other perfectly, like Hitler and Mussolini, or licorice and diabetes. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/487 "2022-10-12T02:40:30Z")
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