# An Open and Honest Letter to CCP from an Alliance Leader **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 10, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870 "2022-10-10T20:47:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/853 "2022-10-14T06:48:44Z")
Here’s the thing boyo, I do hope EVE does change for the better. However, I’ve also accepted we may be finally living in that long goodbye of EVE as well. That being said, you can still make content. Make ISK. The question becomes as the sand runs down in the hourglass, what will you do with the time remaining? Dock up and pray to daddy CCP to save you? Or reset all the standings and go out in a blaze of glory? I’m betting the first one sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/854 "2022-10-14T06:49:22Z")
> [@AshenShugar01](#): > > Give us back the game we love because without us the game doesnt work. And this is the bottom line isnt it? The bottom line is money and you aint making any. Roll back your changes CCP, roll them back immediately, do it before the lights go out for the last time. Cater to distasteful threats and narcissism. Or pivot to those curious to explore more. If I had prepared this banquet of a game and invited you into my home to partake in it I know who I would want to serve. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/855 "2022-10-14T06:53:00Z")
probably nothing… But these guys are not talking about abyssal i do not think. The nullseccrs are asking for the Belts to be fixed… for more ore in the larges of anoms…fixing them. A reason to have people mining in the belts and anoms… and therefore… inviting more hunters …and allowing them to have fun killing each other… And more incentive for nullers to ship to HS, Which would invariably feed… The Gankers The Wardeccrs The Hs Markets: which would feed the HS indy ppl, which would eventually bring prices down, and feed the newbie players and others. What @CCP_Rattati did in nerfing Null, is he destroyed HS…because like most morons with little understanding how eco systems work…moved to destroy the sheep by poisioning the fields…which started to kill off the wolves…but the sheep still can no longer grow despite less wolves. And CCP also chased or did things to force devs to run away…so the caretakers that maintained the water supply whom actually knew how things operated…gone too, so the grass is poisioned…and a drought is creeping in… This is EvE online…and ppl as stupid as you say this is the best thing for us?? oh yeah…maybe you want to get rid of the Bees(not talking about goonswarm), but when you do…then the rest of the area will die without pollination. @Aisha_Katalen you and others like you…go feck yourself or get an education. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/856 "2022-10-14T06:55:24Z")
This quafe huffed induced rambling def shows you do not know what you’re talking about 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/857 "2022-10-14T06:55:34Z")
Aww booo. Did we interrupt your 17 account isk grinding? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/858 "2022-10-14T07:00:33Z")
> [@AshenShugar01](#): > > othing about the game at the moment gives me any desire to play again. I’m just a new player, trying PvP and learning the game. I’m sorry you are unhappy, but if you can give me your stuff it will help me grow and learn better. I’m having a lot of fun and I will enjoy your stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/859 "2022-10-14T07:01:48Z")
I dont need isk… I have 4.2 trillion worth of 10/20 BPO’s 3.9 million units of PLEX and a host of other things… I can play till the servers shut down. What i would like…is more people to play with, either as blues doing stuff, or others as competition…the ppl with the right mentality for EvE…i have no issue helping them out…so long as they are not carebears, 100% focused on grinding isk…are willing to get into Combat PvP…whether thatt is ganking or better yet want to get into wardecs. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/860 "2022-10-14T07:09:27Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > so long as they are not carebears, 100% focused on grinding isk They are, that’s our point. > [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > are willing to get into Combat PvP They’re not, that’s our point. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/861 "2022-10-14T07:10:02Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > I dont need isk… > I have 4.2 trillion worth of 10/20 BPO’s > 3.9 million units of PLEX > > and a host of other things… > I can play till the servers shut down. > > What i would like…is more people to play with, either as blues doing stuff, or others as competition…the ppl with the right mentality for EvE…i have no issue helping them out…so long as they are not carebears, 100% focused on grinding isk…are willing to get into Combat PvP…whether thatt is ganking or better yet want to get into wardecs. Are you aware of how privileged this statement sounds? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/862 "2022-10-14T07:19:24Z")
its not privileged… It is 12 yrs of playing the game. I am in the position to hand stuff out…but i wont. I would rather teach someone that has the gusto to play EvE, willing to take risks, willing to put fun per hour before ISK per hour… Such a person learn to take everything in stride, bad experiences with the good, and refuse to stay on the ground when bucked by the horse. Such a player that flys with me finds i may not give handouts, but i do reward tit for tat in ways most players find hard to accept…the ones still flying with me over great length of time…those ones just shrug anymore and ask “whats next you crazy bastard and how much do i get paid?” ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/863 "2022-10-14T07:20:28Z")
such are the issues of Highsec and its player base mostly…not nullsec. but anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/864 "2022-10-14T07:22:16Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > I have 4.2 trillion worth of 10/20 BPO’s Give it to me. I’ll play the game. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/865 "2022-10-14T07:23:37Z")
Let see: “We blue everyone around us so we can grind in peace and then strike a deal with our opponents to keep the TTT running, in the mean time we cry to daddy CCP to increase our grind income to previous ridiculous levels where we could field 100s of titans so our members keep paying us taxes (which we’ll never use anyway other than some token agreed upon scrap once every 3 years, to keep our members logged)”. Which part of that sounds like they’re not “100% focussed on isk” and they ARE “willing to PVP”? ---
**Author:** ![Induce\_Deadline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/induce_deadline/32/418955_2.png) [@Induce\_Deadline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Induce_Deadline)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/866 "2022-10-14T07:25:02Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Which part of that sounds like they’re not “100% focussed on isk” and they ARE “willing to PVP”? And yet the unescapable fact remains: most destruction takes place in null sec and with a lower population base than high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/867 "2022-10-14T07:25:13Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > I would rather teach someone that has the gusto to play EvE, willing to take risks, willing to put fun per hour before ISK per hour… What some of us in this thread are saying is: “These people are already logging in. You’re not looking, or else you’d actually find them.” ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/868 "2022-10-14T07:26:11Z")
How bout first you order your people to stop messing with my people…at all…period. Get that done first, then maybe we think negotiating a real truce and talk maybe in the future of doing a series of ganks some might think are impossible… Oh yeah give Wrathful Hawk a medal…so long as he is running around…i did not have to launch our orca hunting campaign in my home area…he is doing it for us. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/869 "2022-10-14T07:28:08Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > order your people to stop messing with my people You need a mining permit. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/870 "2022-10-14T07:29:30Z")
ill remember that when im scoping out 1 of the 5 Safety .net mining groups that i know of…especially the one using untanked retty’s at the moment in 0.5’s ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/871 "2022-10-14T07:34:15Z")
> [@Induce\_Deadline](#): > > unescapable fact remains: most destruction takes place in null sec You keep using this phrase. I don’t think it means what you think it does. Yes the most expensive stuff gets blued up in the place where the most expensive stuff exists. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/872 "2022-10-14T08:03:49Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > where the most expensive stuff exists. and the most F1 monkery happens btw i have nothing bad to say about my EX null sec alliance they were pretty decent with me nothing against the people to, lots of good people my critique is that there is to much isk and null life is to easy to complain i agree that most of the changes CCP made in the last few years were bad , i liked eve pre triglavians better. i miss niarja and I’m SUPER against NPCs doing player things but i can understand that to some new people the “invasion “ was the coolest thing ever , its like a kid that have nostalgia for the PS1 because it was his first video game [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870.md?page=32) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870.md?page=34)