# An Open and Honest Letter to CCP from an Alliance Leader **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 10, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870 "2022-10-10T20:47:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/132 "2022-10-10T22:56:55Z")
The OP did come across as a watered-down whine, a reasoned rant. But I read it, all of it. I live in Highsec; my impression was that almost all of the post was concerned with reinvigorating Nullsec in an attempt to retain/attract active players. I may be wrong, but I think the writer believes that his suggestions will improve the game as a whole; a sort of trickle-down effect. I’m sceptical. But one of his suggestions which I’m absolutely against is that of reverting the subscription increase. It was a reasonable change, given current and past commercial pressures. The Company offered (and continues to offer) attractive discounted deals. I’ll probably have to retire one of my accounts and replace it with an Alpha; that’s fine. I play with what I can afford. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/137 "2022-10-10T22:58:55Z")
> [@Dark\_Shines](#): > > Move Ore resources back to pre “prosperity” locations. Give Null Sec back all the ore types you took away. They don’t need to be insane quantities, but they need to be available for your average player to access. No. This was always a garbage mechanic. Making HiSec, LowSec, and NullSec unique for materials is a good thing. LowSec has never seen as much activity, even with declining numbers. > [@Dark\_Shines](#): > > If your average players have to Venture to Low Sec for the most basic of minerals, they won’t even bother trying. Why not? It’s profitable now. ---
**Author:** ![McBarnacle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mcbarnacle/32/245589_2.png) [@McBarnacle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/McBarnacle)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/140 "2022-10-10T23:00:23Z")
I disagree. The price rise isn’t justified IMHO because the game quality has dropped as has the reason to log in. Why pay more for a reduced/inferior product than the one you were used to? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/142 "2022-10-10T23:01:44Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Look at his recent posts! Selling a titan, selling an alliance tournament ship… > > Poor starved null krab is barely able to stay alive with so little sustenance! lol she is kinda right ![Bx](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/a/d/ead56f5a493e7e293c02b1afa83075f547c0d3a7.gif) but as long null sec people stay happy in null sec I’m good with that its like all they touch turns into farms and voice chat channels ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/143 "2022-10-10T23:02:22Z")
> [@xPredat0rz](#): > > holding Sov is basically just for industry which you can not do because everything is still not profitable to build. It’s not profitable to build because you people _overbuilt everything._ Giving you _more minerals_ and _more money_ isn’t going to solve this issue; it’s just going to make it _worse._ How daft do you need to be to not understand the basic supply/demand curve concept as an apparent “industrialist?” > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > If it’s krabs leaving the game in significant numbers, significant enough to endanger the existence of the game (not enough players means dead game), wouldn’t it be the wiser decision to find ways to keep _them_ happy and thus _the game_ alive ? Not when the only way to “keep them happy” is by gorging them like French geese a month before Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Kenelm\_Digby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sir_kenelm_digby/32/337417_2.png) [@Sir\_Kenelm\_Digby](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sir_Kenelm_Digby)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/146 "2022-10-10T23:04:04Z")
Bravo. I wholeheartedly agree. If we had good reasons to login rather than just be treated by CCP like a cash cow then maybe we’d all re-subscribe again… I unsubbed 7 accounts and I’m not missing Eve in it’s current form at all. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/148 "2022-10-10T23:05:49Z")
> [@McBarnacle](#): > > The price rise isn’t justified IMHO because the game quality has dropped as has the reason to log in. Why pay more for a reduced/inferior product than the one you were used to? I didn’t detect any humility in your response, so you should probably lighten-up on the ‘IMHO’ thing. If you don’t like the game as it is, and you don’t like the price as it is, then you might consider doing the other thing? Why indeed pay more for something which evidently disappoints you so much? ---
**Author:** ![McBarnacle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mcbarnacle/32/245589_2.png) [@McBarnacle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/McBarnacle)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/151 "2022-10-10T23:07:19Z")
This is what we are trying to get across. Just because you hate a demographic of the game it doesn’t mean that their wishes aren’t valid and should at least be considered. Hate Krabs all you want - though the two guys lashing out at everyone else in the thread don’t seem to know what a Krab is - but drive people out of the game and you have no game. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/152 "2022-10-10T23:08:15Z")
i agree that the new industry suck ass ---
**Author:** ![Wren\_Virtue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wren_virtue/32/304705_2.png) [@Wren\_Virtue](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wren_Virtue)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/153 "2022-10-10T23:08:39Z")
Don’t know why you all bother responding to a troll. Bottomline, OP has some constructive ways of pushing the game forward before it tanks. Don’t agree with everything, but do agree with having some positive steps to help players play … especially those of us who don’t necessarily want to be in larger alliances. But either way, nice to get some concrete and actionable type suggestions out. ---
**Author:** ![Grozeirkin\_Atavuli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grozeirkin_atavuli/32/487566_2.png) [@Grozeirkin\_Atavuli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grozeirkin_Atavuli)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/161 "2022-10-10T23:14:20Z")
Yep. It is rather remarkable how they continue to spew vitriol at others while claiming the others are the bad ones. Evading direct questions just to throw some further attacks. What’s the phrase, “every accusation is a confession”? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/167 "2022-10-10T23:19:35Z")
lol, look at all the first-time forum posting Reddit krabs just magically pouring into this thread… ---
**Author:** ![Cpt\_Soban](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_soban/32/367858_2.png) [@Cpt\_Soban](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Soban)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/170 "2022-10-10T23:19:53Z")
I endorse this message and/or product. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/172 "2022-10-10T23:20:32Z")
> [@Cpt\_Soban](#): > > I endorse this message and/or product. and don’t forget to smash the like button ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shines](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shines/32/476643_2.png) [@Dark\_Shines](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shines)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/193 "2022-10-10T23:29:01Z")
I am a Null Sec player, my friends are Null Sec players. These changes are not the holy grail of Null Sec changes, they are the most basic bare minimum changes CCP could do to stop the bleed of players, including Null Sec players. Its also fantastic you can afford the sub price. However not everyone can, and with the amount of nerfs in game, with the increased plex price, it becomes a two pronged problem. Snobbery will get you no where. ---
**Author:** ![Mute\_Karimar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mute_karimar/32/487878_2.png) [@Mute\_Karimar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mute_Karimar)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/195 "2022-10-10T23:29:06Z")
But others might need teh ores LS then has… And come there in… mining-boats… Civillian ships… Loot-pinhatas… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/198 "2022-10-10T23:34:03Z")
> [@Dark\_Shines](#): > > none of it was fun I’m having fun. ---
**Author:** ![McBarnacle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mcbarnacle/32/245589_2.png) [@McBarnacle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/McBarnacle)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/202 "2022-10-10T23:39:31Z")
Whatever you say about me at least I’m not you. A person so twisted you would happily see the game end rather than see other people enjoy a gameplay style you don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![aria\_Yatolila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_yatolila/32/488166_2.png) [@aria\_Yatolila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/aria_Yatolila)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/212 "2022-10-10T23:48:59Z")
j’ai pas lu + osef + tu sais pas jouer au jeu tg ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/214 "2022-10-10T23:49:32Z")
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