# An Open and Honest Letter to CCP from an Alliance Leader **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 10, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870 "2022-10-10T20:47:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1000 "2022-10-16T10:22:43Z")
Eh? Sorry I thought we were talking about EvE not RL ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1001 "2022-10-16T10:23:07Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Ah. Dude, another alt? Did you change cause we figured out the other one or Hey! Keep your delirious bs for the other members. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1002 "2022-10-16T10:25:47Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Eh? Sorry I thought we were talking about EvE not RL We are, it’s set theory. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1003 "2022-10-16T10:30:33Z")
Ah more theoretical marxists, gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1004 "2022-10-16T10:34:23Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > The game works just fine, you can do things just fine, you just can’t do excessive things that easily. I don’t see the problem. I don’t either. It’s not as difficult as to have veteran players take anyone under their wings, unless we’re talking about a 14yo. Old people love to complain and old EVE players complain about everything and then say the players are leaving because of what they been complaining about but then they say new players are snowflakes who can’t handle the game but then they propose to teach the game to new players. Does anybody else see the irony in that or it’s just me? ---
**Author:** ![Jussy\_Bunns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jussy_bunns/32/338422_2.png) [@Jussy\_Bunns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jussy_Bunns)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1005 "2022-10-16T10:41:02Z")
> [@Dark\_Shines](#): > > Dear CCP, > > New Eden needs your help. Cringe level 5000bs ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1006 "2022-10-16T11:21:54Z")
> [@Zieae](#): > > Hey! Keep your delirious bs for the other members. Nah bro. You already told on yourself 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1007 "2022-10-16T11:40:13Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Nah bro _Nah bro_ _bruv_ _son_ _brah_… It’s funny that you’re not even aware of just how ridiculous you are on this forum, beyond the fact of how funny it is that you think this isn’t the first time we have contact. So you want to think I’m Kell or some other troll you lost word war against, suit yourself. It’s your wasted time, not mine. I’m leaving you to your delirious state. Have fun 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1008 "2022-10-16T11:43:46Z")
> [@Zieae](#): > > _Nah bro_ _bruv_ _son_ _brah_… It’s funny that you’re not even aware of just how ridiculous you are on this forum, beyond the fact of how funny it is that you think this isn’t the first time we have contact. > So you want to think I’m Kell or some other troll you lost word war against, suit yourself. It’s your wasted time, not mine. > I’m leaving you to your delirious state. Have fun 😃 It’s ok bro 😃 I know why you’re running 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1009 "2022-10-16T11:49:14Z")
Just mute him he is not worth your time. If I was him I would be asking my self why he is spending his life pissing people off and he will be hit hard with some self realization. ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1010 "2022-10-16T12:01:06Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > If I was him I would be asking my self why he is spending his life pissing people off I don’t think he’s _that_ aware. His mental state is more between that of a fish and a cucumber. ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1011 "2022-10-16T12:14:11Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I know why you’re running Yes, I’m running because that argument we had earlier about you know what? Yes, I thought about it and now I think you are right. Ganking isn’t a problem, players just have to learn to deal with it like any other game mechanics. See, Kell can change his mind, even if it’s through an Alt, right @Lucas_Kell or whosever alt you think I am? 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1013 "2022-10-16T12:20:53Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Everyone is my alt. Gix included Oh! The _troll_ is still alive! Hello, Main 👋 Will make it official and put “Lukas Kell’s Alt” in my forum bio, even if I don’t agree with you, I hope it’s okay with you. I know our good pal @Gix_Firebrand would agree. lmao Edit: Ooops, mispelled your name, sorry, Main. lol More Edit: … just kidding ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1014 "2022-10-16T13:29:07Z")
@Gix_Firebrand So what happened? Cat got your tongue? Who’s running now? ---
**Author:** ![Induce\_Deadline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/induce_deadline/32/418955_2.png) [@Induce\_Deadline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Induce_Deadline)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1015 "2022-10-16T14:36:04Z")
This thread went downhill. RIP feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Is\_Persuasive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_is_persuasive/32/338441_2.png) [@Arya\_Is\_Persuasive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Is_Persuasive)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1016 "2022-10-16T14:42:19Z")
I think the thread didn’t go downhill at all, because the subject itself is bad, the thread is on the same level of the subject. The feedback is fine, it is appropriate to the “I want more ISK and passive ISK too otherwise I won’t undock and I will trash EVE’s reputation on Reddit and make nobody else try EVE because I want ISK”. I’m not shocked by the feedback, this is expected, only the people who are oblivious got shocked, it’s a good reality check. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1017 "2022-10-16T15:10:16Z")
BRM - fine do that. Resource Distribution - Totally agree, the reason I left the game was because I could not make BS and lower level capitals without going to extreme lengths. Passive Income - I am glad to see that you did not want to go back to the previous passive moon mining system in the end, because the current system gets people into space. Reserve Bank looks interesting… Also I agree with the Rorquals, at the start they were awesome tough targets, killing one was hard and fun. The yield was however way too much… Price Increase was my second reason to leave the game, it was not so much that I could not afford it, at least for the moment, but more to do with my perceived view on the lack of value of money I was seeing. I was wondering about €30 for two accounts and then when it went to €40 I went nope. Hangers, I like the idea of linking accounts for benefits. Alliance wide bonuses, interesting Ship balance, I detest the everyone is using this ship lets nerrf it so no one uses this ship type of balance which I saw so often in Eve. Not a bad post, I see you hit a nerve with some of the ganker aligned idiots but to be honest who doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1018 "2022-10-16T18:51:51Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Everyone is my alt. Gix included. Dude. This is just sad LOL. > [@Zieae](#): > > Oh! The _troll_ is still alive! You realize how you gave yourself away right? 😃 > [@Zieae](#): > > @Gix_Firebrand So what happened? Cat got your tongue? > Who’s running now? Bro, you know timezones are a thing right? 😃 ROFL. You said you were leaving tho 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Price Increase was my second reason to leave the game Ahh so you don’t play again. Good. Your opinion, which didn’t matter much in the first place, matters as nothing now 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1020 "2022-10-17T04:58:15Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Irony levels at maximum. Oh? How so? He admits to not playing. Why would his opinion matter? > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I think that the end goal is to turn EVE into a more casual drop-in drop-out game with more and more P2W options. Key words. I think 😃 It’s ok. It’ll finally give you the strength to quit right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zieae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zieae/32/338701_2.png) [@Zieae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zieae)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870/1021 "2022-10-17T08:26:16Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You realize how you gave yourself away right? Yes I do 🤣 I’m **so** smart that I give myself away. I should go hide in shame and frustration. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Bro, you know timezones are a thing right? Time zones?!? What the F are those??? 🤪 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870.md?page=39) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-and-honest-letter-to-ccp-from-an-alliance-leader/379870.md?page=41)