# An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack"

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** csm\
**Created:** [March 9, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742 "2022-03-09T21:01:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SomeoneStrange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/someonestrange/32/460169_2.png) [@SomeoneStrange](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SomeoneStrange)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/196 "2022-03-09T23:09:27Z")

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Signed.

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**Author:** ![Eckart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eckart/32/310951_2.png) [@Eckart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eckart)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/197 "2022-03-09T23:09:41Z")

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signed

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**Author:** ![Nova\_Terra-Ren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nova_terra-ren/32/515708_2.png) [@Nova\_Terra-Ren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nova_Terra-Ren)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/198 "2022-03-09T23:10:39Z")

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/signed

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**Author:** ![Zack\_Dean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zack_dean/32/310953_2.png) [@Zack\_Dean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zack_Dean)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/199 "2022-03-09T23:11:54Z")

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Signed, why not station skins

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**Author:** ![Tlatek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tlatek/32/256425_2.png) [@Tlatek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tlatek)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/200 "2022-03-09T23:11:56Z")

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Signed.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/201 "2022-03-09T23:12:47Z")

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> [@Manic\_Velocity](#):
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> I don’t know how anyone with a modicum of sense can take them at their word anymore.

You are _literally_ over a decade late with this exact sentiment.

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**Author:** ![Conscentia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conscentia/32/310918_2.png) [@Conscentia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conscentia)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/202 "2022-03-09T23:13:15Z")

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Signed.

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**Author:** ![Coffinsleeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coffinsleeper/32/310955_2.png) [@Coffinsleeper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coffinsleeper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/203 "2022-03-09T23:14:51Z")

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Signed

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**Author:** ![James\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_ocker/32/310957_2.png) [@James\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/204 "2022-03-09T23:15:03Z")

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/signed

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**Author:** ![Dogpyle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogpyle/32/310958_2.png) [@Dogpyle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogpyle)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/205 "2022-03-09T23:16:40Z")

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/signed

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/206 "2022-03-09T23:16:58Z")

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This is where I miss the old forum.

I’d love to know the corps and alliances all the randos popping out of the woodwork to post their fealty to Brisc belong to.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Axandrias\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axandrias_darkstar/32/483017_2.png) [@Axandrias\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axandrias_Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/207 "2022-03-09T23:19:09Z")

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Signed

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**Author:** ![Nikerym\_Lestroy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nikerym_lestroy/32/374856_2.png) [@Nikerym\_Lestroy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nikerym_Lestroy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/208 "2022-03-09T23:19:14Z")

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SIgned. To spend 18 months shoving patches very few people like down our throats in the name of “Fixing the econnemy” only to do something that breaks the very fabric of it, is an absolute insult to those of us who put up with it.

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**Author:** ![Sonia\_Krytan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonia_krytan/32/306136_2.png) [@Sonia\_Krytan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonia_Krytan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/209 "2022-03-09T23:19:25Z")

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1. Just about every item in the game can be reduced to its PLEX value, ie its real life monetary value.
2. If the player numbers are dwindling, but CPP’s cost of operation increases with inflation, new methods of generating revenue become neccessary.
3. The old guard of this game probably hasn’t spent a single cent on this game in years. They buy PLEX and multi-box. That means the income that allows this game to operate is skewed towards the “new player” end of the spectrum. That means that catering streams of income for CCP naturally is skewed towards new players. It means that the reason the game still exists is probably because of all of the very things you’re complaining about.
4. Pure speculation, but I feel as if CCP has a very good reason for not caring one iota about the player base who are not willing to put their money where their mouths are and spend money on the game to keep it online and pay for the salaries of the people behind the scenes who make this game possible.

Suggestion: Instead of only complaining about new ways CCP tries to generate income, suggest some new ways of generating income which don’t affect the market in the way you wish. Even more importantly, you should suggest things that all of you fat cats who haven’t spent money on the game in lord knows how long would actually spend money on!

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**Author:** ![bigbillthaboss3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bigbillthaboss3/32/260923_2.png) [@bigbillthaboss3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bigbillthaboss3)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/210 "2022-03-09T23:19:57Z")

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You know… it just blows my mind how much money CCP could make by introducing concepts found in other games, here are some simple ideas:

- More incredible ship skins at a more frequent rate. Alliance or corporation sponsored skins.
- In-game alliance / corporation outfit swag or alliance / corporation structure skins and / or visuals.
- Special customized effects for module activation or personnel anchorable deployables.
- Special custom visuals and effects for billboard advertisements or in-space displays.
- I would drop $500 without hesitation on 5 additional corp hangars or a single custom item-group specific hangar (_like BPCs, BPOs, module organization_) similar to what POE has for inventories. _ **Hell, I’d probably spend only 25 seconds of my life contemplating a $1,000 EVE purchase before rabidly credit card swiping some additional corporation hangars.** _

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**Author:** ![Nikerym\_Lestroy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nikerym_lestroy/32/374856_2.png) [@Nikerym\_Lestroy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nikerym_Lestroy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/211 "2022-03-09T23:20:48Z")

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> [@Sonia\_Krytan](#):
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> They buy PLEX and multi-box.

Old people generating a need for plex is better for CCP than new players paying for omega. 500 Plex costs $19, Omega costs $14. If there isn’t a demand for PLEX, no-one buys it anyway.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/212 "2022-03-09T23:20:55Z")

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> [@Sonia\_Krytan](#):
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> The old guard of this game probably hasn’t spent a single cent on this game in years. They buy PLEX and multi-box. That means the income that allows this game to operate is skewed towards the “new player” end of the spectrum. That means that catering streams of income for CCP naturally is skewed towards new players. It means that the reason the game still exists is probably because of all of the very things you’re complaining about.

This is _not_ how the MMO industry monetization scheme works. Most of the spenders are in fact older, established players.

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**Author:** ![Sonia\_Krytan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonia_krytan/32/306136_2.png) [@Sonia\_Krytan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonia_Krytan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/213 "2022-03-09T23:22:06Z")

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They buy PLEX with isk from newer players who buy the PLEX with $$$

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**Author:** ![Dap\_Fral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dap_fral/32/310959_2.png) [@Dap\_Fral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dap_Fral)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/214 "2022-03-09T23:22:18Z")

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/signed

Nail in the coffin for indi, please recognize the line that has been crossed…

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**Author:** ![Duke\_Eyrou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duke_eyrou/32/256967_2.png) [@Duke\_Eyrou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duke_Eyrou)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/215 "2022-03-09T23:22:21Z")

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