# An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [March 9, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742 "2022-03-09T21:01:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![TeamGreen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teamgreen/32/388595_2.png) [@TeamGreen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TeamGreen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/296 "2022-03-10T01:21:49Z")
Yes, the permanent sale of Skill Points and also fitted ships has to stop. Find other things and cosmetics for the online shop please. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/297 "2022-03-10T01:22:52Z")
> [@Sonia\_Krytan](#): > > The old guard of this game probably hasn’t spent a single cent on this game in years. Funny you should say that, as a 08 player, I started subbing by the yr, 3 accts in 2012. Only bought plex twice, once sober, the next set drunk. It must have been a deal they put out. 🤨 Still have the 500… ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/298 "2022-03-10T01:30:22Z")
> [@Nikerym\_Lestroy](#): > > You replied to me when you did it… i assumed you were directing the comment at me. Dude? Why you lying? All you need to do is scroll up to the first post I made which caused you to go off on your righteous rant and look in the upper right corner. Do you see your name there with a little arrow showing it’s a reply? No. No you don’t. You just read my post and got angry because of my lack of genuflection before Brisc like the rest of you no-names are doing. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![baseLine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baseline/32/380948_2.png) [@baseLine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/baseLine)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/299 "2022-03-10T01:32:07Z")
Replying to voice my support. We should organize another riot. ---
**Author:** ![Normayle\_Vaunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/normayle_vaunder/32/310998_2.png) [@Normayle\_Vaunder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Normayle_Vaunder)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/300 "2022-03-10T01:33:12Z")
Dont Do it CCP. Delete this sell. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Kouva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrew_kouva/32/383568_2.png) [@Andrew\_Kouva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andrew_Kouva)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/301 "2022-03-10T01:35:46Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Coal\_Powered](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coal_powered/32/469130_2.png) [@Coal\_Powered](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coal_Powered)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/302 "2022-03-10T01:42:55Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Kismeteer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kismeteer/32/418260_2.png) [@Kismeteer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kismeteer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/303 "2022-03-10T01:45:43Z")
/signed I’ve been playing on 3 accounts for 16 years. I primarily help newbies these days. I strongly oppose this. We’ve had multiple newbies show up, jump straight into a VERY large ships, lose it immediately because they don’t know how to play, then try to buy more, and quit. I’m sure this makes CCP money on the initial plexing but at the same time, it tanks their opinion of the game. This is amplified by the expert systems and paid for ships with dollars. Yes, maybe it’s pay to win with extra steps, but how soon till you offer AT ships for $1k. And if you want to go down that route, knock yourself out, this won’t be my game anymore. This path leads down people not enjoying themselves. As soon as it’s fully pay to win, you complete relegate your monthly paid game down to the free to play model that you have to spend money to even play. It’s bad enough that newbies are tricked into thinking they can easily pay for their account by mining in ventures and such, but to convince them if they spend $25, they can possibly raise enough money to get plex is just insane. ---
**Author:** ![Burabama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/burabama/32/311000_2.png) [@Burabama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Burabama)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/304 "2022-03-10T01:46:10Z")
/signed Stop the sale! ---
**Author:** ![Laeny\_Vyria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laeny_vyria/32/311001_2.png) [@Laeny\_Vyria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laeny_Vyria)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/305 "2022-03-10T01:46:33Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![KaeL\_EaglesEye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kael_eagleseye/32/305284_2.png) [@KaeL\_EaglesEye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KaeL_EaglesEye)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/306 "2022-03-10T01:48:13Z")
For what ever little my voice may mean in this gaming community, i support the community and our past and present CSM on this topic. This is a slippery slope that can easily in a blink of an eye turn into a pay to win freemium style gameplay. Don’t support this mates…shits ■■■■■■ /signed ---
**Author:** ![Dindil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dindil/32/311002_2.png) [@Dindil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dindil)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/307 "2022-03-10T01:48:15Z")
Signed, this pack is completely unacceptable ---
**Author:** ![Okax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/okax/32/311004_2.png) [@Okax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Okax)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/308 "2022-03-10T01:54:46Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Rossonius\_Pun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rossonius_pun/32/191460_2.png) [@Rossonius\_Pun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rossonius_Pun)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/309 "2022-03-10T01:55:04Z")
/signed A lot of forum/reddit complaints about CCP decisions are weird over-reactions and amount to spewing the first contrary thought that pops into the poster’s head. This post is very much not in that category, and outlines without hyperbole a genuine concern about a slippery slope that has been getting slipperier over time. ---
**Author:** ![Tru3\_Stasarik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tru3_stasarik/32/353059_2.png) [@Tru3\_Stasarik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tru3_Stasarik)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/310 "2022-03-10T01:56:28Z")
Signed ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/311 "2022-03-10T01:57:46Z")
![magic](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/c/b/9cbaa757871d4df7d7517b065dfb2c388b54cb81.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Hodolski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hodolski/32/339409_2.png) [@Hodolski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hodolski)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/312 "2022-03-10T02:13:17Z")
Signed. This ain’t Serenity. ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Rebar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_rebar/32/311009_2.png) [@Erik\_Rebar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Rebar)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/313 "2022-03-10T02:23:48Z")
Can’t you just buy anything in the game with $$$ by buying PLEX. Same with skills. Why does this crosses the line when PLEX and SP packs exists? ---
**Author:** ![sKurm\_Tsurpalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skurm_tsurpalen/32/311010_2.png) [@sKurm\_Tsurpalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/sKurm_Tsurpalen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/314 "2022-03-10T02:25:38Z")
Signed ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/315 "2022-03-10T02:30:06Z")
> [@Erik\_Rebar](#): > > Can’t you just buy anything in the game with $$$ by buying PLEX. Same with skills. Why does this crosses the line when PLEX and SP packs exists? For a variety of reasons. It pegs the in game cost of the item to the real life value. It competes with player made items and undermines the investment made by industry folks to produce these ships. It also allows players to skip basic parts of the game, like learning how to fit ships and reduces the impact of loss because there was no in-game time required to obtain the items. Plex is different, because the isk generated from selling plex is generated by the players. SP is similar, and we have similar issues with them selling SP directly. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=16)