# An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [March 9, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742 "2022-03-09T21:01:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Cool\_Coogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cool_coogo/32/311028_2.png) [@Cool\_Coogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cool_Coogo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/484 "2022-03-10T13:51:08Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Don’t worry, Highsec gankers will deal with this situation. Never thought I’d hear myself say this but I hope Safety wrecks every one of these ready to buy ships. Go get 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Syfa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syfa/32/311121_2.png) [@Syfa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syfa)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/486 "2022-03-10T14:14:26Z")
signed. I don’t have much more to say than this will kill the game if they do it. These small steps in the name of immediate profit push the game further to oblivion each time they make them. ---
**Author:** ![CptHoyle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpthoyle/32/426768_2.png) [@CptHoyle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CptHoyle)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/488 "2022-03-10T14:25:06Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/491 "2022-03-10T14:41:25Z")
> [@Kufisha\_Hatari](#): > > I find it much more worth considering that CCP raises a meaningless, disgraceful statement about the Ukrainian war without initiating any sanctions to Russian players I thought CCP’s statement in solidarity with the victims of Russia’s Spacial Operation very heartwarming and appropriate. It’s not up to CCP to engage in economic and entertainment warfare against EVE’s Russian community. The players have nothing to do with the destabilization in world’s geopolitical landscape. This kind of “international actions” have been seen before in the recent past in other parts of the world, I didn’t see anyone calling for the ban on American or British players so enough with forum virtue signaling and double-standards. ---
**Author:** ![Boags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boags/32/382554_2.png) [@Boags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boags)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/492 "2022-03-10T14:46:31Z")
Players build ships not ccp! ---
**Author:** ![Tywin\_Lanister2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tywin_lanister2/32/311128_2.png) [@Tywin\_Lanister2](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tywin_Lanister2)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/493 "2022-03-10T14:50:35Z")
Signed ---
**Author:** ![Yonniya\_Rainor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonniya_rainor/32/350908_2.png) [@Yonniya\_Rainor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonniya_Rainor)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/494 "2022-03-10T14:57:29Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > I do love all the random posters jumping on leave posts because it’s such easy pickings, because they’re cowards and because they’re lazy and yet want to feel significant. > > Thanks for falling neatly into your self-proclaimed category. I am sorry to hear you have not renewed your subscription because of this promotion. 🙁 ---
**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/495 "2022-03-10T14:58:29Z")
Can we also transfer that sentiment to, “Players obtain blueprints and are not friend gifted them by CCP Devs.”? That being the whole point of the CSM and all. ---
**Author:** ![Angelic\_Bliss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angelic_bliss/32/310942_2.png) [@Angelic\_Bliss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angelic_Bliss)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/496 "2022-03-10T15:01:55Z")
i seem to remember something, o wait… > **[CCP: Greed is Good?](https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-23-ccp-greed-is-good)** ---
**Author:** ![Mullar\_s\_Emden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mullar_s_emden/32/311133_2.png) [@Mullar\_s\_Emden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mullar_s_Emden)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/497 "2022-03-10T15:05:40Z")
signed ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/498 "2022-03-10T15:10:33Z")
> [@Chribba](#): > > signed +1 > > /c Finally. Someone I actually respect posting in here. Not another one of the hundred and fifty first time posters. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Kile\_Kitmoore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kile_kitmoore/32/297458_2.png) [@Kile\_Kitmoore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kile_Kitmoore)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/499 "2022-03-10T15:10:47Z")
Obviously this is a bad idea but what really disturbs me is how care-free you’ve crossed the line and the complete disregard for the player trust your breaking. Have you not learned anything yet? How many times do you have to walk down this path? Perhaps when server population is \< 10k? Please reverse this decision and audit how this bad idea went from concept to execution. My guess, you will find a string of bad ideas from certain employees in your organization. I guess when you said “age of prosperity” you were referring to yourselves not us! ---
**Author:** ![tbagger98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tbagger98/32/470509_2.png) [@tbagger98](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tbagger98)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/500 "2022-03-10T15:14:11Z")
I saw this in meme form on our discord, I thought I was being trolled… No, it’s not a meme… it’s not a doctored picture, its real. /signed - This shows me one thing, it’s all about money and profit statements. Want to make the biggest voice stand out, just unsub your accounts. I am down to just one account subbed… and it’s only because I subbed for a year. Thousands of unsubs… would send a message. #Unsubyour$hit2022 - CCP - I was one of the people saying, let’s see where all the changes were going to take us. I remained faithful, and even kept trying to get friends to play. Just sort of shock at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Loota\_Plex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loota_plex/32/311135_2.png) [@Loota\_Plex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loota_Plex)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/501 "2022-03-10T15:14:46Z")
Signed and unsubscribed. CCP you have lost your way. 2 years of ‘prosperity’ and now this money grab against the very spirit of the game. Sack the rat or close the servers. ---
**Author:** ![Sophia\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophia_mileghere/32/381201_2.png) [@Sophia\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophia_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/502 "2022-03-10T15:17:42Z")
The experience that you had was also once described by CCP Ghost (I think it was him). Meaningfully, he described it as very valuable when players see their own progress and have finally acquired a new ship. This feeling of having achieved something is probably also the key to retaining players in the long term. However, selling ships for real money runs counter to his own analysis. Perhaps short-term profits are more important than long-term customer loyalty… ---
**Author:** ![Erin\_Handelis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erin_handelis/32/311136_2.png) [@Erin\_Handelis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erin_Handelis)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/503 "2022-03-10T15:19:59Z")
Making my signiture known. As a returning player of a 6 year break, i feel this move is a cash grab by CCP. It’s dirty, unfair to older players, and set an unreal expectation to new players. I do not support the sale of ships for cash. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/504 "2022-03-10T15:22:13Z")
> [@Regina\_Rockbound](#): > > Here is Aiko Danuja, Princess 👸 who proposes that the pack in question opens up opportunities for content. I like that idea. > The new player who gets ganked in his $10 ship will quickly learn the ways of EVE and will be the better for it. For 10 bucks he gets to learn how to avoid getting blown up. How much more frustrated would he have been to have spent a month grinding only to lose his ship in a matter of a few seconds without understanding how his ship didn’t withstand the attack long enough for him to even think of the next best step? It’s all totally ass backwards. Noobs should be started off in Ventures with gaussian lasers…_entire ship costs 300K_ and can cover its cost in a single trip to an ore belt ( which usually mines about 500K in 15 mins or so ). Two trips to said belt and noob has enough ISK for 3 more Ventures. Starting off noobs in $10 ships is a recipe for rage quit. ---
**Author:** ![Okuda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/okuda/32/394454_2.png) [@Okuda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Okuda)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/505 "2022-03-10T15:25:02Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Hadrian\_Tobran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hadrian_tobran/32/373681_2.png) [@Hadrian\_Tobran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hadrian_Tobran)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/506 "2022-03-10T15:29:33Z")
This was all part of rat boys plan. Make ships too expensive/tedious to build then sell em to you for the low low price of 25 bucks. I would be willing to bet all my savings that more of this is on the way. The sad thing is that we have told you multiple ■■■■■■■ times we would happily buy station skins or custom ship skins or countless other things. Instead of spending 5 minutes working on something you ■■■■ yourself by pissing us off more. The leadership of ccp is incompetent and needs to be replaced. ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/507 "2022-03-10T15:34:13Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Starting off noobs in $10 ships is a recipe for rage quit CCP doesn’t “start noobs in $10 ships” it’s merely an option made available to whomever thinks it’s a deal worth taking. No one is forced to buy it. It’s just there for the buying and I don’t see why not. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=25)