# An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [March 9, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742 "2022-03-09T21:01:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/685 "2022-03-11T02:50:59Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > There is compelling evidence that Brewlar and Cherry are the same person I’d say the evidence is at 100% 😃 I think he honestly got so caught up he forgot which account he had logged in. > [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > P2W doesn’t apply in this game. You know what he’s saying. Settle down hussey 😃 > [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > You can inject the skills for a Retriever faster than it takes to install the pack. Buying SP to reduce wait time and catch up to oldies is one thing. Buying fitted ships is another can o beans. But you know that already. But the amount of cowardice you show daily with this alt is chef’s kiss tho 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/687 "2022-03-11T02:59:23Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Buying fitted ships is another can o beans. Why? Are those ships extra powerful or something? Do they have bonuses or locked buffs? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/688 "2022-03-11T03:01:56Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I like it when you wait all day for me to post something you can try to own me with. I bet your little tail is waggin’ fast enough right now to get you airborne. Is your apologist going to jump in in the next few minutes as usual? You pwn yourself bruv 😃 Imagine being so afraid in a vidya game you hide behind an alt. Post on your main 😃 > [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Why? Are those ships extra powerful or something? Do they have bonuses or locked buffs? I’m going to do you the favor of assuming you aren’t this stupid and are just trolling 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/689 "2022-03-11T03:04:10Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I’m going to do you the favor of assuming you aren’t this stupid and are just trolling Well I was making a point. You want to call it trolling then that’s your prerogative. You made a claim that I’d still actually like to hear your rationale for. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/690 "2022-03-11T03:23:21Z")
> [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Well I was making a point. You want to call it trolling then that’s your prerogative. You made a claim that I’d still actually like to hear your rationale for. Do you not know how EVE’s economy works? ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/691 "2022-03-11T03:43:32Z")
Yes I do but please explain your concerns to everyone here if you can so that we all know why you are so upset. ---
**Author:** ![Arakkis\_Melanogaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arakkis_melanogaster/32/378473_2.png) [@Arakkis\_Melanogaster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arakkis_Melanogaster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/692 "2022-03-11T03:48:13Z")
CCP why won’t you let us give you money? There are plenty of ways that EVE could be monetized that the playerbase would love: -Alliance skins -Structure skins -Colored contrails -Unique warp animations -Advertisements on in space billboards -Advertisements in market hubs -Advertisements in alliance staging keepstars (imagine the Tokyo Rose adverts in the next war!) Why do you insist on doing things that you know we will universally hate? It’s like we are holding out $20 and instead of taking it you pull a knife and demand the change we have in our pocket. We are an old playerbase that has money to spend. Let us spend it on you. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/693 "2022-03-11T04:18:48Z")
> [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Yes I do but please explain your concerns to everyone here if you can so that we all know why you are so upset. So you do but are asking for an explanation anyways? LOL. So again, either you’re lying or you’re trolling. Which is it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/694 "2022-03-11T04:19:03Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Is your apologist going to jump in in the next few minutes as usual? Wait, am I Gix’s apologist? Or is that someone else? Regardless, suppose I could do some aplogizing while I’m here… Gix is being greeted as a liberator on the forums. Anyone claiming to be butt hurt by his comments is a crisis actor. Besides, this is all the Reddit’s fault anyway. Gix is just trying to ensure the security of his preferred social media platform. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/695 "2022-03-11T04:26:31Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > Wait, am I Gix’s apologist? Nothing’s stopping you if you want to be. But I wasn’t talking about you. I was talking about the guy who always shows up to dig him out of the hole he digs himself in to. You are just you. Weird and interesting. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/696 "2022-03-11T04:53:25Z")
I think he means me? Although I don’t help Gix all that much, and for the most part let people fight their own battles. ---
**Author:** ![SMR\_Timmy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smr_timmy/32/311254_2.png) [@SMR\_Timmy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SMR_Timmy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/697 "2022-03-11T04:58:07Z")
Signed. Bad direction. Game breaking ---
**Author:** ![Sara\_Seraph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sara_seraph/32/495525_2.png) [@Sara\_Seraph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sara_Seraph)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/698 "2022-03-11T04:58:56Z")
I have to upvote the basic idea of the letter. The camel continues to stick its nose in the tent. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/699 "2022-03-11T05:08:12Z")
This is the very example of selling GOLD AMMO you f’ing dumbass ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/700 "2022-03-11T05:15:32Z")
Not quite. Gold ammo was straight-up better than normal ammo; the Retriever isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/701 "2022-03-11T05:16:57Z")
in World of Tanks I heard some of the “premium” tanks are worse than the “non-premium” but those are golden ammo as well…and reason i dont play games like that. ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/702 "2022-03-11T05:58:43Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > So you do but are asking for an explanation anyways? Why are you avoiding the question? You raised this issue of the bought ships yet you refuse to answer what the issue is and now are just deflecting and calling me a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/703 "2022-03-11T06:03:18Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > This is the very example of selling GOLD AMMO you f’ing dumbass Err…no. Gold ammo is when you spend RW money for an extremely obvious bonus…Something other players who don’t spend $$$ will be at a disadvantage. Everything in these packs can be bought ingame with ISK/PLEX…no advantage gained. Glad I could help. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/704 "2022-03-11T06:36:44Z")
> [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Why are you avoiding the question? You raised this issue of the bought ships yet you refuse to answer what the issue is and now are just deflecting and calling me a troll. EVE has a player driven economy. The answer is literally above you in this thread. Its already answered. Ain’t my fault you can’t read as well as being a bad troll 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/706 "2022-03-11T06:43:50Z")
So you really think a few ships, modules SBs are somehow going to bork the economy…that’s kind of funny and cute. Thanks for finally getting around to answering. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=31) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=33)