# An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [March 9, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742 "2022-03-09T21:01:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/831 "2022-03-12T08:46:30Z")
> [@Regina\_Rockbound](#): > > Looks like death by a thousand cuts. One thing everyone need to also remember is that everything dies. Products are no exception and while each’s longevity will be different, the end is always the same. I’m always amazed/greatful at how long EVE has managed to stay around well past its peak. Heck even DOTA2 is down about 40% from its peak. A passionate player base is great but that’s a double-edged sword in the long run. The 💩 show when Star Citizen’s core players turn on CI is going to be epic…and that seems to be coming very soon. Any how, back to EVE… ---
**Author:** ![Celestral\_Beacon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celestral_beacon/32/311411_2.png) [@Celestral\_Beacon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celestral_Beacon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/832 "2022-03-12T08:48:16Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/833 "2022-03-12T08:50:05Z")
well… none. cause i did come back last week after a 2 year break from the game. very exited to be able to compress asteroid belt ore directly in the orca, wich is something i have been wanting ever since i first started playing like… i think 16 years ago att this point. but hey i guess i can build 5 procurers right now i need to make some cash xD ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/834 "2022-03-12T08:55:38Z")
> [@RainReaper](#): > > but hey i guess i can build 5 procurers right now i need to make some cash xD That’s great. If you don’t like this pack then sell your Retrivers at a discount or at least cheaper than what the pack offers. That way whoever wants to buy the pack for the ship can see it’s cheaper on the Market… good luck beating the pack though since it comes with PLEX and SP. I guess it’s up to the capsuleer/consumer to choose, isn’t it? Isn’t it how capitalism work? ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/835 "2022-03-12T09:00:33Z")
the pack seems like a real ripoff thoguh from what i have seen. 1 month omega is 15 eu. the last 10 for 100 plex and a retriever… its very expensive people are better of just geting a normal plex pack and bujying a retriever that way xD i still wont ever accept generation stuff that players are supposed to build into the game, might as well never build anything ever again and just make it all be purchasable with irl money. but then eve is no longer eve ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/836 "2022-03-12T09:04:46Z")
> [@RainReaper](#): > > the pack seems like a real ripoff thoguh from what i have seen. 1 month omega is 15 eu. the last 10 for 100 plex and a retriever… its very expensive It’s not that expensive when you count the modules and the grind avoided, all those hours mining and hauling and manufacturing and time spent training, not counting the losses included in a gank or two while you grind to afford and get in the ship. I’d say it evens out. ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/837 "2022-03-12T09:05:51Z")
…so. you are okay with this? ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/838 "2022-03-12T09:06:59Z")
I’m 110% okay with this pack. Matter of fact I’m logging in later on and buying one. See my earlier posts for reasons, even though I don’t really need one to spend _my_ hard-earned money on whatever I choose to spend it on. ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/839 "2022-03-12T09:07:50Z")
…so if they added. say a procurer and covetor pack. effectively killing any reason to build mining barges ever again. you would be okay with that to? ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/840 "2022-03-12T09:09:33Z")
> [@RainReaper](#): > > so if they added. say a procurer and covetor pack. effectively killing any reason to build mining barges ever again. you would be okay with that to? Yes indeed I would be. I don’t see why I wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaj_a_beardhat/32/449367_2.png) [@Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaj_A_Beardhat)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/841 "2022-03-12T09:09:55Z")
I love how the Jita protests back during Incarna were about pay 2 win and buyable ships/ammo, and not walking in stations/cosmetics Yet 12 years later here we are, walking instations was scrapped, so was Dust 514, WOD MMO, ect, but they’re selling ships and skills for cash… ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/842 "2022-03-12T09:10:13Z")
in other words. if the made it so you could buy ANY ship in the game. you would be fine with that to? ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/843 "2022-03-12T09:11:27Z")
As long as there are no bonuses and they operate as a normal ship, I would have zero issue. Assuming the pricing would scale somewhat linearly inline with the Retriever. ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/844 "2022-03-12T09:12:35Z")
ok then. i say lets remove industry. and with that lets remove mining barges to cause i mean. what do we need those for when there is no industry amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/845 "2022-03-12T09:14:59Z")
So you would rather pay over $100+ for a BS rather than just either build it yourself if needed? And do this **every time** you needed a new ship? Does that sound plausible to you? ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/846 "2022-03-12T09:15:42Z")
well. who is gonna build it? whos gonna mine for materials? why give a damn? ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/847 "2022-03-12T09:17:16Z")
and a BS? i cant afford to build those holy ■■■■ xD they cost way to much with those new materials. also T2 mats i cant get myself ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/848 "2022-03-12T09:19:25Z")
Miners will still mine. Industrialists will still build as they will still make ISK from the manufacture and sales of ships. ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/849 "2022-03-12T09:20:38Z")
why would they buy my ships? they can just get a new ship from the store ---
**Author:** ![RainReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainreaper/32/310001_2.png) [@RainReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RainReaper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/850 "2022-03-12T09:21:50Z")
heck. you yourself. is siting there saying your gonna buy the retriever cause its such a good deal xD [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=38) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=40)