# An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [March 9, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742 "2022-03-09T21:01:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Barnabas\_Quincy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barnabas_quincy/32/377078_2.png) [@Barnabas\_Quincy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barnabas_Quincy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/911 "2022-03-12T22:05:36Z")
Please please listen CCP. Don’t do this. Talk to us. ---
**Author:** ![Caxton\_Verticorda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caxton_verticorda/32/380790_2.png) [@Caxton\_Verticorda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caxton_Verticorda)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/912 "2022-03-12T22:09:27Z")
Consider it signed by this nameless, faceless nullsec grunt. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/913 "2022-03-12T22:11:18Z")
How much for Catalyst gank pack? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/914 "2022-03-12T22:22:08Z")
and that is why there is an uproar about this crap, despite your bullcrap posting earlier in the thread…chaning your stripes huh? ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/915 "2022-03-12T22:25:49Z")
There was both before and after I posted. Just because you can’t deal with a different opinion on a topic is really no concern of mind. No stripes changed. Deal with it (if you can). ---
**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/916 "2022-03-12T22:27:59Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > The real issue of “Ships out of thin air” are the SOCT ships because they are overpowerd, way too useful and supplant the other ships of their class in all areas (use, creation, market). These ships need to be culled. This. Probably worse than the Ret Pack. Have there been any protests about them? ---
**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/917 "2022-03-12T22:38:33Z")
The SOCT ships do not interfiere with industry. The Retriver-pack does. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Thrace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_thrace/32/293485_2.png) [@Ursula\_Thrace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Thrace)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/918 "2022-03-12T22:42:14Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Dray\_Cil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dray_cil/32/418073_2.png) [@Dray\_Cil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dray_Cil)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/919 "2022-03-12T22:43:24Z")
/signed… And I _was_ a miner. ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/920 "2022-03-12T23:24:06Z")
Logging back in to add my name(and my 11 accounts) to the list. I had logged in earlier this week and considered resubbing a few of my accounts with the battleship/surgical strike turn back changes. Now that I’ve seen this, me and my accounts will continue to win Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Lrrp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lrrp/32/438942_2.png) [@Lrrp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lrrp)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/921 "2022-03-12T23:29:44Z")
I agree with the OP and remember, what do you expect when CCP most famously states “Greed is good” ---
**Author:** ![Jinsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jinsura/32/280156_2.png) [@Jinsura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jinsura)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/922 "2022-03-13T00:53:54Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Davlin\_Lotze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlin_lotze/32/317156_2.png) [@Davlin\_Lotze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlin_Lotze)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/923 "2022-03-13T00:54:12Z")
Honestly dont care if it is all direction or no direction. The fact that ganking is what people do in High Sec is pathetic state of the game. All the time and effort to flesh out all the new stuff in Empire space is utterly wasted and meaningless when mechanics can be contorted to reward suicide ganking to the degree it is rewarded. ---
**Author:** ![Jinsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jinsura/32/280156_2.png) [@Jinsura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jinsura)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/924 "2022-03-13T00:57:57Z")
would you also be ok, if ccp would sell Titan packs, where you get a fittet Titan? Ship in Eve get build by players not spawn by ccp. ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/925 "2022-03-13T01:05:54Z")
CCP has put ships in purchasable packs before. But they were all pretty tiny, inconsequential ships in pretty niche packs very specifically aimed at attracting new players. And most of those ships were already given as new player/career agent rewards. This is a step up from that. The bigger change between now and then, though, is the relationship between CCP and the player base. Back when those came out there were issues, sure, but generally speaking the player base and devs were on a much better footing. Now, that relationship has pretty much been squandered over the last several years, and we’re more or less always waiting for the other shoe to drop anymore. Between the upstep in that ship selling(and what it means in CCP indicating they’ll do it again), and that breakdown in the the relationship, this is just too far for people to stomach. ---
**Author:** ![Draqolas\_Windfury](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/draqolas_windfury/32/427631_2.png) [@Draqolas\_Windfury](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Draqolas_Windfury)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/926 "2022-03-13T01:26:37Z")
FU CCP. You milk us with subscription then add skins, then milk with outfits, then add injectors, then add raw skill packs, then you add entire ship into the pack. I’ve just unsubbed and so did many other people. Thank you for ruining my game. BTW the game state is broken, so it’s not just monetization that I’m pissed about. ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/927 "2022-03-13T01:55:42Z")
/signed ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/928 "2022-03-13T01:59:22Z")
> [@Draqolas\_Windfury](#): > > I’ve just unsubbed and so did many other people I hope everyone who’s quitting at least give their stuff to Mike Azariah. There are so many new players to help… I would ask for their stuff but sadly I ain’t gonna get nuffin. ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/929 "2022-03-13T02:09:44Z")
> [@Jinsura](#): > > would you also be ok, if ccp would sell Titan packs, where you get a fittet Titan? Ship in Eve get build by players not spawn by ccp. 100% ok with this if prices were scaled lineally. So if a Ret is $25 then a Scorpion would be in the $150 range…should I go on? Are you starting to see how much of a non-issue this is? ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Stonewall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_stonewall/32/311543_2.png) [@Major\_Stonewall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Stonewall)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/930 "2022-03-13T02:13:26Z")
of course i hate the imperium guys but… as a 2003 Player…i fully support the letter o77 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=44)