# An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [March 9, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742 "2022-03-09T21:01:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1620 "2022-03-21T23:28:12Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > If CCP were actually smart they’d I agree, clearly CCP could handle this better. I’ve read too many salty bitterbear comments, like @Arrendis calling them “liars”, and it’s a bit much. I like CCP, and I’m generally happy with my EvE Online experience. I think CCP devs are working hard to improve the game, and they don’t deserve the toxic abuse. There isn’t some evil megalomaniac ‘Korean’ conspiracy to price gouge everyone. Anyone who really thinks that needs to calm down and take a break. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1621 "2022-03-22T00:16:27Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I really don’t believe that CCP intends to ban ganking from Highsec. If they do, I’ll just move to lowsec, and I’ll watch as the Highsec economy implodes. I think CCP knows this, and they will never do it. CCP wants Highsec miners to die. I’d be the first to join the protest if CCP banned ganking in highsec…despite being an ‘anti-ganker’. It’s far better that the ganking issue is resolved via roleplay and content, than by nerfs or buffs. Gankers vs AG is content…and is the players themselves. Highsec would be utterly boring without ganking. It would be full of all those P2W Retrievers sitting there for months on end…not even Dante’s Inferno could capture such a living hell. ---
**Author:** ![Pur3Bl00D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pur3bl00d/32/384679_2.png) [@Pur3Bl00D](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pur3Bl00D)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1622 "2022-03-22T01:01:27Z")
No monetization of ship sales, being able to instantly buy and use a ship anywhere at any time is a game breaker bring WIS back, sell cosmetics for plex, augmented reality DLC , the possibilities to make a buck are endless CCP, brainstorm a bit first ---
**Author:** ![Studio\_Ghibli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/studio_ghibli/32/298559_2.png) [@Studio\_Ghibli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Studio_Ghibli)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1623 "2022-03-22T01:11:47Z")
If y’all want to make money, I’ve been waiting years to buy more pink/white indy skins. And as someone that also plays Final Fantasy XIV, I’m sad that y’all took away the CQ. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1624 "2022-03-22T01:16:34Z")
My daughters don’t believe me when I tell them that there aren’t any pink ships. ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1625 "2022-03-22T03:13:20Z")
There’s the Eros Blossom skins. Not quite pink, but about half pink. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1626 "2022-03-22T03:28:58Z")
I don’t have a Machariel. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1627 "2022-03-22T06:26:10Z")
EVE Echoes then? ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1628 "2022-03-22T07:19:02Z")
There’s are two different pink themed skin sets available. ---
**Author:** ![Ranshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranshe/32/468747_2.png) [@Ranshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranshe)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1629 "2022-03-22T07:30:00Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’m generally happy with my EvE Online experience Generally being the key word here. Yeah we’re all generally happy with the game. That’s why we’re still here. Two days ago I shot my carrier at other people’s capitals and hacs, I had fun doing that. But that doesn’t mean we are blind to what CCP is doing and the direction they are taking the game in – and that we agree with it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1630 "2022-03-22T07:43:59Z")
The plex that is used to make a purchase with inside the NES store, does that go into a large pool account that in turn is sold back to players? Reason for asking such is what if the supply outways the demand or vice versa and does that have anything to do with the changes we’re seeing? ---
**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1631 "2022-03-22T09:53:05Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > The plex that is used to make a purchase with inside the NES store, does that go into a large pool account that in turn is sold back to players? No, CCP already has an unlimited supply of PLEX to sell to players, CCP don’t need any more. It’s just values they can overwrite themselves in the database. Digital goods and all that. This is not the problem. Now that I’m beginning to see the bigger picture of the broken player economy, I’m also becoming more convinced that many players have been way too harsh on individual CCP developers. The latecomers at CCP have inherited a gradually growing ■■■■■■■■■■■ that took years of time in the making. This ■■■■ won’t be fixed by removing poor store offers such as the latest one (though it would help a little). Solving this will be tough, if not impossible. Assuming a little good will in all parties, these guys have my sympathy. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1632 "2022-03-22T10:28:54Z")
Dear oh dear This is still going despite the lack of Dev response ? … Guys, CCP wont change, that is it, this is Eve now and for the forseeable future. Adapt or quit. Simple. ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Rockbound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_rockbound/32/310582_2.png) [@Regina\_Rockbound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Rockbound)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1633 "2022-03-22T10:36:42Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Adapt or quit. Simple You’re still here? Apparently the forum is more entertaining to you than the game. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1634 "2022-03-22T10:45:04Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > This is still going despite the lack of Dev response ? There actually was a response > [@Verlyn](#): > > Guys, CCP wont change, that is it, this is Eve now and for the forseeable future. And yes that was basically the response ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1635 "2022-03-22T10:49:24Z")
In the form of an ingame advert on login ? I saw that. [https://c.tenor.com/iqZq\_N5\_ld8AAAAC/laugh-ron-burgundy.gif(image larger than 4 MB)](https://c.tenor.com/iqZq_N5_ld8AAAAC/laugh-ron-burgundy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1636 "2022-03-22T10:50:26Z")
> [@Regina\_Rockbound](#): > > You’re still here? > Apparently the forum is more entertaining to you than the game. yes forum pvp, 100x more enticing. Here, have some void ! ---
**Author:** ![L0rdF1end](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l0rdf1end/32/407407_2.png) [@L0rdF1end](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L0rdF1end)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1637 "2022-03-22T11:45:25Z")
While I disagree with the sale of ships direct from CCP for obvious reasons, at the same time, its very hard for new players trying to get into this game. Have you seen how long it takes to train to get into some basic T2 ships? Today is very different from 10-15 years ago. Younger people expect faster gratification and I’m willing to bet most get bored of Eve due to the very long training queues. My new recruit logged off and said he’d be back in 2 weeks, when he can fly a covert ops… Will he come back… Maybe… ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Kitty\_Paws](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/small_kitty_paws/32/267673_2.png) [@Small\_Kitty\_Paws](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Small_Kitty_Paws)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1638 "2022-03-22T11:59:04Z")
> [@L0rdF1end](#): > > Have you seen how long it takes to train to get into some basic T2 ships? Bigger isn’t better. Instant gratification and direct access to expensive stuff is first step for people to quit. Have you seen how long it takes to **learn** how to fly basic T2 ship? Basic frigates and destroyers give all kinds of content for months. Both PvP and PvE. People don’t want to “catch up”. They looking only at isk/h. > [@L0rdF1end](#): > > My new recruit logged off and said he’d be back in 2 weeks, when he can fly a covert ops… Well, then you suck as teacher. Since you didn’t explain him that he don’t need shinny stuff. I wonder if he gonna come back when he will lose ~40 mil covop frig or worse. 100mil+ astero problem isn’t with game. But with people skipping steps. Just to fail. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1639 "2022-03-22T12:30:40Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > In the form of an ingame advert on login ? Here you go. > [@An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack"](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742/1346): > > Capsuleers, We hear your concerns about the Prospector Pack. As all EVE players know and remember, being a new pilot in New Eden has many challenges. Some players are lucky enough to make their way into player corporations quickly, where they are shown the ropes and supported by our veterans. For others, however, this path can be hard to find or feel intimidating, so they go it alone. We’ve spent much of 2020 and 2021 devoting resources to researching these players and trying to find ways to h… tl;dr: They will not stop selling ships in the money store, but they will try to launder them trough the industry system, so it’s all fine now and they hope they can get away with it this way. Oh and it’s of course all for the children _new players_, so you can’t be against it. It’s immoral to pick apart a reason given if it’s stated to be intended for the benefit of children _new players_! It means you hate children _new players_ and that makes you a bad person! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=76) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-ccp-from-current-and-former-csm-members-on-the-prospector-pack/352742.md?page=78)