# An open letter to Kril Efrit **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [August 28, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-kril-efrit/186368 "2019-08-28T13:26:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 24
**Author:** ![Angus\_Thermopollye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angus_thermopollye/32/178315_2.png) [@Angus\_Thermopollye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angus_Thermopollye)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-kril-efrit/186368/24 "2019-09-03T16:28:55Z")
> [@Tyrel\_Toov](#): > > You do know that we aren’t immortal, right? We can, and do, die frequently. And our ability to come back from it is as easy to prevent as CONCORD pushing a button. I don’t know many planetary farmers that can clone into a new body the moment they die. True, we are not literally immortal. We are functionally immortal. I don’t need a lesson in everyday cloning procedures. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Really? Do you have those reports handy, or are you just doing what people all over Galnet do, and making crap up to support your position? > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/ab9dddf910948448a1df1f2d5823296e4798a816.jpeg) Angus\_Thermopollye: I don’t know who you think you are, but I’m under no obligation to provide you proof of anything. Look it up yourself. > [@Arrendis](#): > > I wasn’t talking about _you_ . I was talking about the current atmosphere in Republic, where yes, social conservatives have been running an ur-Reactionary push toward ‘traditionalism’ for a decade, despite our traditions being more or less invented out of fragmented half-remembered rumor _within the lifetime of some Amarr_ . > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/ab9dddf910948448a1df1f2d5823296e4798a816.jpeg) Angus\_Thermopollye: Ahh, I can see where you’re coming from now. No, I don’t support traditionalism ahead of progress. I’m saying, based on my information and study, that the traditional Matari culture is losing out to other cultures, not to it’s own Matari culture. I absolutely believe that a culture must progress or die. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Because utterly rejecting the Gallente style of government, that was Gallente values encroaching on our society, right? > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/ab9dddf910948448a1df1f2d5823296e4798a816.jpeg) Angus\_Thermopollye: Yet the Minmatar people continue to leave in droves for Gallente space. > [@Arrendis](#): > > The Minmatar are governed by a Tribal Council, with each Tribe governing itself. Your dichotomy’s a false one. The idea of a national sense of unity is an _extremely_ Gallente one. We are seven Tribes, and the Tribes together are the Minmatar. But first, we are our Tribes. > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/ab9dddf910948448a1df1f2d5823296e4798a816.jpeg) Angus\_Thermopollye: I’m well aware of how the Republic works and functions. Even on the tribal level, every empire outside of Minmatar can see that there isn’t unity even on the most basic of levels. I make more money out here than I could there. So my Clan makes more money with me out here, sending it more than 3/4 of my income, than they would if I was in the Republic. That means my Clan can do more, provide better for its members, promote the interests of the Tribe more, than it could if I were in the Republic. Capsuleers aren’t even 1/1000th of a percent of the population. We’re not indicative of any societal trends. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/ab9dddf910948448a1df1f2d5823296e4798a816.jpeg) Angus\_Thermopollye: So, you don’t see enriching the economy of a foreign empire as opposed to the one of your own native people to be a detriment to your society? Perhaps that’s why the Minmatar ended up in chains. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Capsuleers aren’t even 1/1000th of a percent of the population. We’re not indicative of any societal trends. > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/b/ab9dddf910948448a1df1f2d5823296e4798a816.jpeg) Angus\_Thermopollye: You really underestimate our impact into the governance of the empires, I believe. Yes, our percentage is statistically low but we literally have the capability to take the power away from the empires if we so choose. You look at me as an enemy, an interloper. You can’t even see someone that is firmly on your side. Oh, well. Let me know how that works out for you all. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-kril-efrit/186368)._