# An Open Letter To the Brutor Clans of Matar, Regarding a Sporting Event **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 28, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415 "2019-06-28T22:42:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/62 "2019-07-03T13:53:29Z")
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooow ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/63 "2019-07-04T12:48:16Z")
šŸ”„ ---
**Author:** ![Literia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/literia/32/491152_2.png) [@Literia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Literia)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/64 "2019-07-05T04:31:30Z")
You gave your tribe a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Literia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/literia/32/491152_2.png) [@Literia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Literia)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/65 "2019-07-05T04:40:44Z")
I may not be a Chief of a clan or head of a Tribe. But what one does in their personal time is what one does with it. Havent we spent enough time being judged by others outside the Republic, but then again can we actually trust the Republic to do what is right? We have invasions on our doorsteps of the Trigs and yet not ONE Empire has done a thing to take a stand save observe and comment. If they dont have the balls to take the stand then \*\*\*\*'em. Literia Khammael ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/66 "2019-07-05T05:13:20Z")
> [@Literia](#): > > but then again can we actually trust the Republic to do what is right? Yes. Yes we can. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/67 "2019-07-05T05:19:16Z")
> [@Deitra\_Vess](#): > > Yes. Yes we can. Why should we? Theyā€™ve embezzled aid money. Murdered people without trial. Let convicted criminals walk because their Thukker friends asked nicely. Broken our peace with the Federation. Failed to protect _Matar_. And not even started the War they promised us for all this. How long do we just _trust_? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/68 "2019-07-05T05:45:03Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > Broken our peace with the Federation. Though, really, thatā€™s a good deed. Now if only you could make a peace with the Empire, I am certain we might be able to negotiate peace as well after that. Good trade relations are always better than war! ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/69 "2019-07-05T14:07:16Z")
All of the things you mentioned are horrible, I fully agree with you on that. However they arenā€™t exclusively problems with our Republic. Theyā€™ve embezzled aid money? Are we the first to do that? Let criminals walk due to dubious reasons? We broke our peace with the federation, would you say that was unprovoked? Personally I wouldnā€™t even though I do agree that was not exactly in our best interest. If your willing to pin the blame on the attack on Matar specifically on our Republicā€™s lack of readiness, then I guess we should be looking down on the Amarr as well for losing their late Empress in a flash. After all how hard could it be to defend a single ship, verses the Republic defending hundreds of planets. Matar was a tragedy, it really was. Casting blame doesnā€™t actually help the situation. Why should we trust our Republic? That is a good question. Simply put The Republic definitely has its negatives on paper, however the rest are worse. How long should we trust them? Personally theyā€™ll lose my trust when they actually do something that isnā€™t the status quo as far as major powers are concerned. As far as that promised war is concerned, Do we know everything they do? If they havenā€™t acted they probably have a good reason not to. Iā€™m not giving them the benefit of the doubt, thatā€™s just common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/70 "2019-07-05T16:54:57Z")
> [@Deitra\_Vess](#): > > We broke our peace with the federation, would you say that was unprovoked? Yes. Yes, I would say that the _Federation_ did not attack us when _one person_ committed a murder. If weā€™re gonna condemn excessive use of lethal force when say, the Amarr glass a world to kill one murderer, then we canā€™t turn around and say itā€™s ok when we literally attack a sovereign nation because they want to put a criminal on trial _before_ handing him over to us to put him on trial again. > [@Deitra\_Vess](#): > > Personally theyā€™ll lose my trust when they actually do something that isnā€™t the status quo as far as major powers are concerned. Like a mass murder of government officials that then puts the murderers in power? ---
**Author:** ![Lithara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lithara/32/268412_2.png) [@Lithara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lithara)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/71 "2019-07-05T17:43:15Z")
I am going to point out that we didnā€™t just have peace, we were friends. I hope we still are. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/72 "2019-07-05T20:18:50Z")
> [@Deitra\_Vess](#): > > As far as that promised war is concerned, Do we know everything they do? If they havenā€™t acted they probably have a good reason not to. Iā€™m not giving them the benefit of the doubt, thatā€™s just common sense. The whole freaking stated reason for the coup was that Midularā€™s goverment was not aggressive enough. Shakor got ā€œelectedā€ (quotemarks intentional) on a platform of war now, and ā€œwe come for our peopleā€. Trusting the government to have good reasons to not attack was not good enough then - it was in fact considered bad enough to _justify the murders without trial_. If we are to just trust it, why the Purge in the first place, why the usurping of legal power? ---
**Author:** ![Literia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/literia/32/491152_2.png) [@Literia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Literia)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/73 "2019-07-06T04:05:06Z")
Why would we trust them? They have given every Minmatar person every reason to not trust them. They can not protect our own, they can not stand up for what is right. They cant get their heads out of their own asses long enough to see what the actual issues are instead of whatever they believe they are. I invite any of them to come see my facilities that I run for rescued and rehabilitation slaves that need assistance when the Republic has forgotten about them and just tosses them aside. ---
**Author:** ![Ayallah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ayallah/32/302740_2.png) [@Ayallah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ayallah)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/74 "2019-07-12T08:19:43Z")
Attractive people pressed together, drenched in water, rolling in the earth, ā€¦and there are detractors? Ah well, it seems like a lot of fun to me. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/75 "2019-07-12T08:52:43Z")
Iā€™m Brutor and I approve this message. Nothing wrong with a little ā€˜slap and tickleā€™ masquerading as sport. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhir/32/379234_2.png) [@Mizhir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhir)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/76 "2019-07-12T09:25:42Z")
Hello darling. Long time no see šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/77 "2019-07-12T17:31:31Z")
Holy carp, yer alive! ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/78 "2019-07-12T18:18:15Z")
Ayallah, oh man! Hello again! You should fill in for people who arenā€™t competing. Itā€™d be a fight and a half. ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/79 "2019-07-12T21:30:37Z")
I donā€™t think I know you, but Iā€™d roll in the earth with you. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-open-letter-to-the-brutor-clans-of-matar-regarding-a-sporting-event/170415/80 "2019-10-10T21:30:44Z")
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