# And now the dark side of some people that 'enforce' Safety in HS

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 12, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715 "2021-05-12T01:17:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/21 "2021-05-12T19:50:22Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> religious zealot

ISIS type of zealot or Westboro Baptist Church crazy…the obstinance of these non believers!

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/22 "2021-05-12T19:52:39Z")

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lazor love will save them S3

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/23 "2021-05-12T19:54:10Z")

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Im a lapsed Amarrite, but I still go to church on St. Blagging’s Day

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/24 "2021-05-12T20:20:47Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Now, does that make me bad because I did it in a video game but not reality?

Yes.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Does the simulation somehow prove I am a potential criminal?

Yes.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Should we be setting up a Pre-Crimes Division?

Yes. And I made a thread about that very concept, but it got locked almost instantly.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/25 "2021-05-12T20:22:09Z")

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Ah but it didnt get locked BEFORE you made it!

Thats why we need PCD.

Someone get Tom Cruise, Super Agent on the line.

He ONLY plays heroes so must be a real swell dude in realsies

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Worthsalot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_worthsalot/32/272495_2.png) [@Chad\_Worthsalot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Worthsalot)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/26 "2021-05-12T21:03:26Z")

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I’m confused. Is DDoS’ing someone’s stream so you can gank them for them making you mad IRL now “roleplaying”? Lmao.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/27 "2021-05-12T21:09:04Z")

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Why are you confused? You are now confilating two seperate points I made.

Are you dim ?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/28 "2021-05-12T22:01:38Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Should we be setting up a Pre-Crimes Division?

Can I be head of Pre-Crimes please

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/29 "2021-05-12T22:11:19Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> I think some method of cooling down all the emotions

Now if we had Walking in stations . After being killed we end up in a nice calm place maybe a tree to hug and Buddhist monks chanting in the background.

That would do it 🌲

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/30 "2021-05-12T23:28:58Z")

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Ah one of these threads again.

Can anybody invent a new trope in this one?

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/31 "2021-05-12T23:31:09Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Does the simulation somehow prove I am a potential criminal?

Unfortunately, yes.  
You’re in good company though, the miracle is that the vast majority of people keep their impulses in check.

Those who come here and claim that gankers would be just as bad in RL; I suspect they haven’t looked deep within, or else they put up a facade of being a purely good person.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/32 "2021-05-13T02:56:32Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> > [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> > you are either good people both over the internet and out in the world
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> Uh wha? Its a Roleplaying Game.
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> Thats akin to saying actors must be bad people if they play villians.

Actors roleplaying, is completely different to gaming (MMOs). Actors generally just follow predefined scripts. So there’s no malice involved at all, at least as far as playing the role is concerned.

Gaming however, I often see people doing things just to annoy others, It’s not just PvP, I see it in PvE as well. They also use the excuse it’s just roleplay.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/33 "2021-05-13T03:48:21Z")

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> [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#):
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> They also use the excuse it’s just roleplay.

there is meta roleplay to  
i said before  
and i will say again  
i roleplay a bitter religious zealot veteran, who lost one eye at the war  
my char roleplays Christian Bale listening to “walking on sunshine” on a walkman

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/34 "2021-05-13T05:41:13Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> There’s nothing wrong with being aggressive and slinging poo

Its wrong when you communicate by that, and its described as wrong in ToS.

If anyone does PvP or anything, its better not to write actually anything in chat, maybe something supportive only, or posting cute ASCII characters and smileys showing objectively how good is that feeling when you win.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/35 "2021-05-13T12:14:55Z")

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Clearly you neither act or roleplay, but I suppose that means your character is above reproach.

PreCrimes Im sure will find you pure.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/36 "2021-05-13T12:16:48Z")

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Sorry that post is reserved for Mr Cruise.

But I hope they send Officer Red to bring me in before I commit my crime.

Whatever it is 🙂

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/37 "2021-05-13T15:24:46Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Its wrong when you communicate by that, and its described as wrong in ToS.
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> If anyone does PvP or anything, its better not to write actually anything in chat, maybe something supportive only, or posting cute ASCII characters and smileys showing objectively how good is that feeling when you win.

ms nana teaching me to be more wholesome every day 😃

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/38 "2021-05-14T00:12:06Z")

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The what?

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**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/39 "2021-05-14T00:17:09Z")

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Not yet, you are slated to begin on October third. Oh, and bring an umbrella, it’s going to be raining on your way to work.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-now-the-dark-side-of-some-people-that-enforce-safety-in-hs/310715/40 "2021-05-14T01:57:32Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Clearly you neither act or roleplay, but I suppose that means your character is above reproach.
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> PreCrimes Im sure will find you pure.

I rollplay all my characters, although not verbally. Most of the verbal roleplay I’ve witnessed over the years has for the most part been utter garbage.

I do find it difficult to play bad characters, usually if I try they get deleted shortly afterwards. Being bad towards people is just alien to me, just seems like a strange and in most cases an unnecessary thing to do. I certainly wouldn’t get any satisfaction or enjoyment in making someone (or animal) suffer in any way. In an MMO I’m always conscious that there are actual people behind the characters.

At the end of the day it’s about choices, you can choose to be an ass to others or you can choose not to be.

As for pure, I doubt anybody is truly pure.

Edit: Just noticed you also mentioned acting. It’s clear you do not do acting, if you did you would know there can’t be any real malice between actors on set, as it just wouldn’t work. Doesn’t mean there can’t be malice between actors off set.

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