# And yes, we are announcing big content updates for Fanfest. It’s the largest one probably that we’ve ever done **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663 "2022-05-08T12:33:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/41 "2022-05-08T16:35:23Z")
… yet. Would you feel better when they go up too? That would be funny, if they all raise theirs and Eve becomes the cheapest of them all lol. ---
**Author:** ![Matar\_San\_Shakor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/matar_san_shakor/32/318876_2.png) [@Matar\_San\_Shakor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Matar_San_Shakor)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/42 "2022-05-08T16:48:05Z")
@Butte_Stuff Alpha is free. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/44 "2022-05-08T17:06:02Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > –Oh yeah, the in game skillplan ■■■■■■■■ is supposed to replace the skill que So you dont chose what skills you put said sp in? But rather a category that you HAVE to train everything in? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/45 "2022-05-08T17:09:26Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > So you dont chose what skills you put said sp in? But rather a category that you HAVE to train everything in Please refer stupid questions to game developers. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/46 "2022-05-08T17:10:22Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Please refer stupid questions to game developers. > > Mr Epeen 🕶 Please dont answer if you dont actually plan to answer ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/47 "2022-05-08T17:15:05Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > Please dont answer if you dont actually plan to answer Isn’t that an answer, just one you don’t like? ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/48 "2022-05-08T17:23:43Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > I was kind of surprised how angry people got Really? In this day and age? on the internets? with grind clown bears running 43 accounts each? People just irrationally rage about anything and everything, it’s a form of passive aggressive emotional bullying. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/49 "2022-05-08T18:42:55Z")
I am genuinely surprised that no one has addressed the important issue of: No-more ship spinning in dock. ---
**Author:** ![Deriger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deriger/32/452991_2.png) [@Deriger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deriger)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/50 "2022-05-08T18:44:48Z")
I hope we have the ability to turn that dock animation off. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/51 "2022-05-08T19:04:22Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > No-more ship spinning in dock. You can spin your doll in the avatar window. Hopefully it falls off. Speaking of which, we should have an API route for our doll stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/52 "2022-05-08T19:51:21Z")
So they thought a decade about how to get rid of attributes and now they just go with the most simple version possible, by removing the skill queue and let the SP trickle into the SP pool instead. And they sell that as a rework? ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/53 "2022-05-08T19:54:57Z")
It would simplify their back end to have it just in the pool and let the user just use it to knock out skills in one go. You don’t get any benefit with partially trained skilll anyway. It also has the benefit of removing the unecessary complexity or forgetting to set a queue. Attributes are just horrible complexity, primary and secondary bonuses too. Will save you some ISK in the process for implants. Many just have them balanced and don’t bother with the remaps anyway. This stuff will also simplify the likes of EveMon apps on planners. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/54 "2022-05-08T20:03:33Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > I _am_ sorry you were lead to expect more. None of those things mean anything to me, they didn’t say “big content for the 7 people doing faction warfare” ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/55 "2022-05-08T20:06:02Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > for the 7 people doing faction warfare I am sure the idea is to get more than 7 players doing FW. However one off putting issue with it for single account/char recreational players is the impact on roaming due to standings loss. So those players are not likely to do FW on their single character anyway and they cba to create another character to train up just to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Sitting\_Bull\_Lakota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sitting_bull_lakota/32/438272_2.png) [@Sitting\_Bull\_Lakota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sitting_Bull_Lakota)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/56 "2022-05-08T20:13:38Z")
Two possibilities: 1. The major content update is turning all of lowsec or large swaths of it into a content rich environment driven by a hybrid of player/npc elements and events over several years that will involve a dramatic expansion of the faction warfare system to include not only the present empire conflicts, but also the emergence of the pirate factions as playable navies in the struggle both against the empires and with each other. In support of this, CCP is presenting the first phase which will be the introduction of a new Cal/Min pirate faction or a more merciless “police/pirate” jump-out-boys Am/Gal faction depending on the aforementioned hybrid player/story arc system. The major content here would be, lowsec will now be fundamentally different from highsec (dominated by CONCORD/npc and largely “safe”) and null/wh (domitated by players and as safe as its owners can enforce) Or 1. they lied to your face. ---
**Author:** ![Vicar2008](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vicar2008/32/317739_2.png) [@Vicar2008](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vicar2008)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/57 "2022-05-08T20:20:13Z")
Isnt the first time I have read a fanfest report along the same lines… promised much, delivered feck all promised, rinse and repeat. Infact its getting scary just how much they keep repeating the same stite. I feel like an abused wife, just go back taking the same beating and go back thinking things will change… (bit amatuer dramatic I know) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/58 "2022-05-08T20:35:47Z")
yah the dock animation will be interesting once or twice, and after that im going to want to disable it ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/59 "2022-05-08T21:25:40Z")
> [@Sitting\_Bull\_Lakota](#): > > they lied to your face. you got it ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/60 "2022-05-08T21:46:23Z")
It’s hilarious to me that some people think that CCP is going to replace passive SP accumulation with an active grind system. Because out of everything CCP would like, forcing players to play on one account instead of paying to train a bunch of alts at the same time is an absolute priority for them, right? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663/61 "2022-05-08T21:47:08Z")
> [@Emira\_Sultana](#): > > They have announced content. “Big” is a question of opinion. They also did unveil quite few things they’ve been working on so “lies” is a matter of interpretation and opinion. > Oh and I doubt they were _in your face_ It’s not subjective. They said it’s the LARGEST ONE they’ve ever done. So they gave us a metric to measure against. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/and-yes-we-are-announcing-big-content-updates-for-fanfest-it-s-the-largest-one-probably-that-we-ve-ever-done/361663.md?page=4)