# Announcement: Demonspawn Banishing Temple Operational

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [June 29, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911 "2017-06-29T21:37:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/107 "2017-07-06T20:18:14Z")

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From what you’ve said it doesn’t sound all that subtle, though.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/108 "2017-07-06T20:40:16Z")

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Well, as it turns out I’ve been given the go-ahead to show you the site of the chapel in the Societas holdings at Nahyeen, Mr. Nauplius. I’m available at our mutual convenience, including presently, though I wonder whether you’ll learn at all what you’re expecting to.

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**Author:** ![Casserina\_Leshrac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/casserina_leshrac/32/310487_2.png) [@Casserina\_Leshrac](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Casserina_Leshrac)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/109 "2017-07-06T21:18:44Z")

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Bringing Nauplius into your temple to look for “signs” for demonic summoning suggests that you willing to validate his beliefs.

While this may seem like a good idea, may I refer everyone to the simple discussions of alternate religions and how he has corrupted their practices under his own rites.

I would recommend strongly two courses of action. Seek a member of Faithful Clergy of sufficient rank. I can think of no one better than Cardinal @Graelyn.

Or if you wish I will enter your sanctum since, like Nauplius have more than a cursory knowledge of such designs. Though able to view it with much more objective viewpoint.

I can tell you he will find his proof even though you won’t be able to see it.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/110 "2017-07-06T23:56:27Z")

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Ms. Leshrac, I’ve been authorized to take you on the same tour, if you wish to understand exactly what Mr. Nauplius saw and learned.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/112 "2017-07-07T00:50:50Z")

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I’m going to go out on a pylon here and say, “Nope.”

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**Author:** ![Casserina\_Leshrac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/casserina_leshrac/32/310487_2.png) [@Casserina\_Leshrac](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Casserina_Leshrac)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/113 "2017-07-07T02:30:16Z")

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@Aria_Jenneth I am honored and many thanks.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/114 "2017-07-07T06:17:00Z")

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Can someone please explain to me why so many people are wasting time engaging Nauplius in conversation? It should be clear by now that nothing said here makes the slightest amount of difference to him and that you’re just feeding his ego by giving him attention.

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**Author:** ![Jev\_North](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jev_north/32/100533_2.png) [@Jev\_North](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jev_North)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/115 "2017-07-07T08:03:55Z")

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Respectively: do your own reading; nothing said _here_, no; de-escalation hasn’t worked because he just ramps up his antics until someone _does_ start paying attention.

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**Author:** ![Davlos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davlos/32/175547_2.png) [@Davlos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davlos)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/116 "2017-07-07T08:36:54Z")

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Why can’t we just stop the jaw jaw and get on with the war war already?

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**Author:** ![Jev\_North](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jev_north/32/100533_2.png) [@Jev\_North](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jev_North)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/117 "2017-07-07T08:54:37Z")

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In a word, structure shields.

…okay, two words.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/118 "2017-07-07T11:41:12Z")

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So Napkins calls the tune, and you leap to dance to it. Yeah, that’ll teach him.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/119 "2017-07-07T14:00:52Z")

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If you have a better-- an actually better-- idea, I’m keen to hear it, Arrendis. I’ve already explained why your / Miz’s previous one is awful and I’m not interested in arguing about it any more.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/120 "2017-07-07T14:39:15Z")

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Then don’t. Not to be rude, Aria, but you not wanting to argue about it doesn’t mean I can’t point it out to Jev.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/121 "2017-07-07T14:46:09Z")

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Jev was responding to a person addressing, at least partially, me, Arrendis.

Not to be rude, but people who aren’t trying to mitigate the situation throwing peanuts from their gallery at those of us who are is really getting old. It might be more convenient for all three of you if those of us in the Empire would be consistently awful and not care about people’s lives so we could be easily demonized, but I’m afraid caring about the fate of every individual soul seems to be as much a part of Amarr as slave-taking. More so, probably.

Actually the two might be a little related in a paternalistic kind of way.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/122 "2017-07-07T14:55:35Z")

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You demonstrably don’t give a crap about people’s lives, when they’re not conveniently in the hands of some strawman clown that’s ‘safe’ to rail against.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/123 "2017-07-07T14:56:34Z")

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That doesn’t mean you are in any way, shape, or form, required to engage in the side-discussion between us. If you don’t want to argue it, don’t. Nobody’s forcing you to. Do what you find convenient and comfortable—it’s all you’ll do, anyway.

From my perspective, you’re doing nothing to mitigate the situation. You’re perpetuating it. You are _fueling_ it. You are not going to stop him. You are not even really slowing him down. You are reinforcing his behavior, and you know it. You’ve admitted it. You claim to care about people’s lives, but you only act against the brutality of one man who doesn’t even amount to a drop in the bucket of the cruelty that the Empire runs on. Every day, the Empire abuses more people than Napkins can kill in a decade, and you—by your own words—do nothing because it would be inconvenient for you and your patrons.

The Amarr give a lot of lip service to the idea of ‘caring about the fate of every individual soul’, but really, if they _actually_ did, wouldn’t they be out there, every last one of them, _begging_ the unbelievers to come to God, instead of sitting in their golden towers, issuing imperious demands that history has shown will only strengthen the resistance to their message in the long run?

The Amarr don’t care about the fate of individual souls. They care about people _seeing_ them ‘care’ while they actually do nothing but sit back and profit from the suffering of others.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/124 "2017-07-07T14:57:27Z")

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If I were you, I’d accuse you of being disingenuous, Miz.

Since I’m me, I’ll give you the benefit of a little doubt and say you’re wrong.

Laughably, contemptibly wrong.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/125 "2017-07-07T14:59:41Z")

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If you ever demonstrate that you give a crap about people’s lives when it’s even slightly inconvenient, instead of tacitly supporting their suffering and destruction, I’ll gladly admit to being wrong.

Until then, your tragic theater with the clown is only that.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/126 "2017-07-07T15:04:02Z")

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I have no interest in proving myself to someone like you, Mizhara Del’thul. I pay attention to _you_ because you occasionally say something interesting and worth hearing. It’s a little different from listening to you, though. I’m kind of done doing that. Have been for a while.

Even if sometimes you have something interesting to say, your opinions are dust.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/announcement-demonspawn-banishing-temple-operational/7911/127 "2017-07-07T15:04:39Z")

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I know. They’re inconvenient and contrary to your own. Can’t have that.

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