# Annual Account and Ganker **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 14, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282 "2020-12-14T16:21:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/205 "2021-01-25T10:28:32Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > And yet… Triglavians on gates, in belts. Could be that CCP is de-emphasising player on player combat in hi while still leaving in means to wreck the careless. No. They did it because they have no clue what to do and fell from one extreme right into the other,not getting that extremes are the problem not pvp or pve. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/206 "2021-01-25T10:28:37Z")
> [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#): > > But seen globally this concept just scares more customers away than it attracts. The game has survived for 17 years with just a PvP only server. I think it will continue to do fine. > [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#): > > other playstyles are just pvp content. Well but that is just how it is. You sound like someone who thinks if he ignores the obvious reality of this game and just dreams up his own vision of how it is supposed to be that has somehow relevance in a discussion about the actual game. It doesn’t. It will help neither you not any other players who agree with you, to understand EVE or get any better at it. All you will end up is perpetual tears about how unfair everything is because reality doesn’t match your expectations. Never change, we love that kind of salt ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/207 "2021-01-25T10:29:37Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > What more would you suggest? They should not have access to NPC stations and only be able to use the Market in their own corporation stations. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/208 "2021-01-25T10:30:59Z")
What about other player owned stations? ---
**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/209 "2021-01-25T10:32:08Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Well but that is just how it is. > > You sound like someone who thinks if he ignores the obvious reality of this game and just dreams up his own vision of how it is supposed to be that has somehow relevance in a discussion about the actual game. It doesn’t. It will help neither you not any other players who agree with you, to understand EVE or get any better at it. > > All you will end up is perpetual tears about how unfair everything is because reality doesn’t match your expectations. > > Never change, we love that kind of salt to all others: See? This mindset is a result of being ass powered by ccp for 17 years. Dominance,even this imagined one,is ‘birthright’ and all other playstyles are just for pvp content. So sad. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/210 "2021-01-25T10:35:50Z")
> [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#): > > Dominance,even this imagined one,is ‘birthright’ and all other playstyles are just for pvp content It’s psychpatic. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/211 "2021-01-25T10:36:36Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > There’s not much choice when your ship is tied down while you’re being slaughtered. EVE PvP is not about the actual ship combat. When that fight starts it is usually already decided who will win. The mistake was made way in advance and let you to end up in that situation from where there was no escape. You can cry all day about how that is unfair. It will not help you understand the game or get better at it. Accept it as a lesson and that you getting killed was YOUR fault, because you let your guard down, because you assessed the situation wrong. This way you can grow and become better. Or, keep entertaining us with your tears. Your choice ---
**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/212 "2021-01-25T10:38:13Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > EVE PvP is not about the actual ship combat. When that fight starts it is usually already decided who will win. The mistake was made way in advance and let you to end up in that situation from where there was no escape. > > You can cry all day about how that is unfair. It will not help you understand the game or get better at it. Accept it as a lesson and that you getting killed was YOUR fault, because you let your guard down, because you assessed the situation wrong. This way you can grow and become better. > > Or, keep entertaining us with your tears. Your choice I feel sorry for you,so one-dimensional in your mindset. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/213 "2021-01-25T10:38:57Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > was YOUR fault, because you let your guard down, because you assessed the situation wrong Tie someone down and slaughter him then say it was his fault. Typical victim blaming. ---
**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/214 "2021-01-25T10:40:02Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > Tie someone down and slaughter him then say it was his fault. Typical victim blaming. Well…he CAN do this…but it should lead to ban if repeated. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/215 "2021-01-25T10:40:32Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > They should not have access to NPC stations A small inconvenience, nothing we can’t work around. In fact I kinda already expect that to happen for years, so I kinda pre-adapted and don’t even use any highsec NPC stations. 😂 > [@Red-Sonja](#): > > and only be able to use the Market in their own corporation stations. Yeah, I can’t remember when I last time used my gank alts for a shopping tour And now what? Cry for more nerfs? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/216 "2021-01-25T10:41:08Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > Tie someone down and slaughter him then say it was his fault. Typical victim blaming. In a computer game yes The purpose of the game is to not get tied down an slaughtered while you try to do what you are doing. If you don’t manage to do that it is your fault. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/217 "2021-01-25T10:42:57Z")
> [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#): > > Well…he CAN o this…but it should lead to ban if repeated Not ban. The game allows it and it’s fine by me. But they should not have all access to NPC services if they are pirates. Were pirates allowed in the port of Amsterdam? I think NOT. ---
**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/218 "2021-01-25T10:44:13Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > Were pirates allowed in the port of Amsterdam? I think NOT. Depends on the bribes they paid 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/219 "2021-01-25T10:44:41Z")
Am I missing something? Are they now complaining about warp disruptors specifically? ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/220 "2021-01-25T10:44:44Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > And now what? Cry for more nerfs? You internet psychopaths can only come back with “cry” and “salt”. Change your tune. Don’t you have another music? ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/221 "2021-01-25T10:45:29Z")
Exactly. They did not have free access. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/222 "2021-01-25T10:49:19Z")
Citadels are in many ways better than npc stations for gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/223 "2021-01-25T10:50:17Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > m I missing something? > > Are they now complaining about warp disruptors specifically? Who is ‘they’ and what is the ‘where’? Context is missing ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/224 "2021-01-25T10:50:52Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Citadels are in many ways better than npc stations for gankers Good for them. Just like Tortuga was great for that band of degenerates. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282.md?page=12)