# Annual Account and Ganker

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 14, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282 "2020-12-14T16:21:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 13

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/245 "2021-01-25T11:38:14Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Yea yea, keep calling them degenerates and claiming that you’re not complaining. You’re only fooling one here

Yeah yeah, just make sure to leave my point:

> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> All I’m saying is: pirates should not be afforded the same services as non-pirates. It’s a simple concept that exists since piracy came about.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/246 "2021-01-25T11:38:24Z")

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Some people don’t like open world games without clear goals, or PvP. My girlfriend for example. I play a lot of games with her and tried introducing her to EVE, but this game is just not for everyone.

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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/247 "2021-01-25T11:39:12Z")

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Pirates should have access to all the essential services necessary to be pirates because player antagonists are supposed to exist in Eve in all areas of space by design.

You don’t like the rules of the game as they currently stand and you want new ones. If disliking the rules of the game you play isn’t a sign you should be playing a different game, then what would be?

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/248 "2021-01-25T11:40:30Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> but this game is just not for everyone

This game is for those who want to play. Who are you to decide if someone can or cannot play a game?  
Go commit your acts of piracy, it’s fine.  
Just don’t pretend it’s not shameful.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/249 "2021-01-25T11:42:32Z")

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> [@Qia\_Kare](#):
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> If disliking the rules of the game you play isn’t a sign you should be playing a different game, then what would be?

I don’t dislike the rules. I don’t mind pirates.  
Just don’t pretend it’s some lofty goal. It’s shameful.

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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/250 "2021-01-25T11:43:59Z")

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Then fine. As long as the rules stay the same people can complain all they want, or try to do something about it in game. I don’t have a problem with either of those two things.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/251 "2021-01-25T11:44:46Z")

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Not every game is suited for everyone. Twitch shooters are nothing for me, even though I sometimes play them. Does that mean I demand changes to those games to make people only fight me in honorable fights where I get at least 1 second to aim for their head before they kill me? Do I call them ‘degenerates’ when they throw grenades around corners at me while I refuse to use grenades?

No, I’d be silly to do so. Instead I go find games that I enjoy playing.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/252 "2021-01-25T11:44:51Z")

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> [@Qia\_Kare](#):
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> Then fine. As long as the rules stay the same people can complain all they want, or try to do something about it in game. I don’t have a problem with either of those two things

At least you’re reasonable o7

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/253 "2021-01-25T11:45:43Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> No, I’d be silly to do so. Instead I go find games that I enjoy playing

I enjoy playing EVE and no pirate will make me leave it.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/254 "2021-01-25T11:47:06Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> Go commit your acts of piracy, it’s fine.  
> Just don’t pretend it’s not shameful.

I’m no pirate. I merely support the existence of their playstyle in this game as I believe it is supposed to be part of this game. Also I think you’re overreacting.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/255 "2021-01-25T11:48:49Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> I’m no pirate. I merely support the existence of their playstyle in this game as I believe it is supposed to be part of this game

Oh I see. You speak FOR the pirates.  
That’s even worse. You’re like a defense lawyer for criminals. How loathsome.

> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Also I think you’re overreacting.

I’m only calling a spade “a spade”.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/256 "2021-01-25T11:49:16Z")

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You guys are getting trolled so hard right now…

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/257 "2021-01-25T11:50:04Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> They should not have access to NPC stations and only be able to use the Market in their own corporation stations.

Alts make this kind of pointless. Trivial to work around to the point that it is useless.

Gankers already use alts for hauling, industry, etc (and probably market transactions also where necessary).

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/258 "2021-01-25T11:51:09Z")

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That’s why I don’t think Alts should be allowed.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/259 "2021-01-25T11:51:46Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> You guys are getting trolled so hard right now…

You’re right. Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference 🙃

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/260 "2021-01-25T11:53:08Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> That’s why I don’t think Alts should be allowed.

I don’t think CCP will ever entertain that limitation (and couldn’t anyway even if they tried), which kind of renders any suggestion that relies on single account limit, pretty moot.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/261 "2021-01-25T11:55:07Z")

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You’re right. But they could if they wanted to. Only, it would cut into CCP revenue stream so that’s basically out of the question.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/262 "2021-01-25T11:56:12Z")

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Also how would you cut up the alts I have on my accounts? Every account has 3 characters, am I to choose one and biomass the rest?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/263 "2021-01-25T11:57:18Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> Only, it would cut into CCP revenue stream so that’s basically out ofbthe question.

Maybe, although i think it’s just that it isn’t possible in any practical way. There’s just no way they could achieve it, regardless of any impact on revenue.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/264 "2021-01-25T11:57:19Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> am I to choose one and biomass the rest?

You wouldn’t have to do anything if CCP made it so.

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