# Annual Account and Ganker

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 14, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282 "2020-12-14T16:21:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/346 "2021-01-25T13:05:00Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> I don’t want to research it and find some source, I just want **your source**

If you want my source you’ll have to put some work into it, like start by researching yourself instead of wanting everything on a silver platter.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/347 "2021-01-25T13:05:56Z")

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Well I tried searching the list of names you’ve used before on the forums and all but this character do not exist anymore.

It proves nothing, but I’m not trying to prove anything. I’d just like to know _why_?

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/348 "2021-01-25T13:06:38Z")

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> [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#):
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> The funny part is that they think they ‘win’ if we leave…fact is that there are better things to do right?

The deluded remain ignorant by their own making.  
And then they want “a source” like I owe them something 😂

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**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/349 "2021-01-25T13:06:50Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> It proves nothing, but I’m not trying to prove anything.

So why do you search in first place

Sounds to me like a brainfart…

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/350 "2021-01-25T13:07:59Z")

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> [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#):
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> Sounds to me like a brainfart…

This forum is full of brainfarts. It’s amazing to what extent some people are clueless.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/351 "2021-01-25T13:08:18Z")

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‘Do your own research’ is how every conspiracy theorist shares their views. Not that I’m saying that you’re a conspiracy theorist, but the more appropriate way to share sources is by sharing your souces.

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**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/352 "2021-01-25T13:08:42Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> This forum is full of brainfarts. It’s amazing to what extent some people are clueless.

not clueless,uneducated…

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/353 "2021-01-25T13:08:56Z")

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Call it interest.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/354 "2021-01-25T13:09:14Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Do your own research’ is how every conspiracy theorist shares their views. Not that I’m saying that you’re a conspiracy theorist, but the more appropriate way to share sources is by sharing your souces

I share nothing with the ignorant.  
You want to know? Find out for yourself. I owe you nothing.

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**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/355 "2021-01-25T13:09:18Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Call it interest.

interest in what? proving nothing? 😛

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/356 "2021-01-25T13:09:42Z")

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To be fair, they’re asking because extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Generally it’s known as the burden of proof, something that Trakoro regards as completely alien.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/357 "2021-01-25T13:11:04Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> To be fair, they’re asking because extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

It’s only “extraordinary” if one is clueless and too lazy to find out for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/358 "2021-01-25T13:11:05Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Generally it’s known as the burden of proof, something that Trakoro regards as completely alien.

Right,because i refuse to proof an assumption others make…this is not my job,it’s theirs.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/359 "2021-01-25T13:11:55Z")

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Levitation is normally trickey or magnetic in nature, neither is reverse gravity.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/360 "2021-01-25T13:12:27Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Levitation is normally trickey or magnetic in nature, neither is reverse gravity

Sementics.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/361 "2021-01-25T13:13:51Z")

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No, interest in you, Balos.

I had a discussion with some forum regular where he claimed another character to be you, but I told him this (Trakoro) is your currect character and follows the line of your previous characters, unlike the other character. As I was going through the names I found that none of them existed ingame anymore, which I found interesting.

So why did you do it?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/362 "2021-01-25T13:14:02Z")

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Nope, explainable phenomena; by the standard you’re using a Liquid Rocket Booster is also reverse gravity.

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**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/363 "2021-01-25T13:14:50Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Liquid Rocket Booster is also reverse gravity

No it’s not and I know the difference.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/364 "2021-01-25T13:14:56Z")

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> [@Red-Sonja](#):
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> > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> > Levitation is normally trickey or magnetic in nature, neither is reverse gravity
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> Sementics.

And we looked for years for a unifying theory, something to glue all the forces together… When in reality the difference was just “Sementics”… mind blown

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/365 "2021-01-25T13:15:50Z")

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Magnetism, like an LRB produces thrust; so does light.

That leaves trickery.

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