# Annual Account and Ganker **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 14, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282 "2020-12-14T16:21:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/145 "2021-01-24T15:41:29Z")
Yeah I guess that’s a bad habit of mine. In case you didn’t know, this guy has been here for _years_. This is his third … fourth? … incarnation? He’s always easily spottable and every incarnation he’s getting more and more aggressive. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/146 "2021-01-24T17:37:04Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > This is his third … fourth? … incarnation? This is the 7th incarnation afaik; it’s like the 7 dwarfs, but without the funny hats. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/147 "2021-01-24T17:37:52Z")
Oh wow! Is there a list somewhere?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/148 "2021-01-24T17:39:04Z")
Ari Kolapa, Hysan Tyrosur, Balos Tritapo, Traco Miritu, Duro Peripar, Darlo Kubika and the current incarnation; there may be more. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/149 "2021-01-24T17:48:47Z")
I totally missed the first and second one. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![LeeWoonJae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leewoonjae/32/452359_2.png) [@LeeWoonJae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LeeWoonJae)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/150 "2021-01-24T18:56:04Z")
Ha! When you listed the names I searched for the first one “Ari Kolapa”. This is an amusing post he made 2.5 years ago: [CCP killed highsec PvP - #373 by Ari\_Kolapa](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/373) > This is no PVP game…never was…always was 3/4 PVE… > In time CCP sadly follows them…but those times are over and CCP lately comes to their senses… How many more years will your prophecy take to come true Trakoro Tolada? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/151 "2021-01-24T18:58:21Z")
> [@CCP killed highsec PvP](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-killed-highsec-pvp/65493/379): > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Don’t loose too much salt during the things to come… Guess who’s salty now? 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/152 "2021-01-24T19:06:15Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > a few dedicated gankers will drive off hundreds and thousands of potential players 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/153 "2021-01-24T23:08:45Z")
It’s actually 100% true. I killed an AFK-mining 800 million ISK Hulk a few days ago. I’ve been checking, and that person is _gone_ - they haven’t signed in again since then, as the locator still reports them in the station where they logged off. I made sure to let them know _exactly_ whom to thank for the gank, too. Interesting thing, though: apparently the GF/BF/spouse/maybe parent of the gankee sat down on their PC a few minutes after the gank, and thanked me in local for doing it because “he was being an idiot.” So even their _lovers_ think that high-sec carebears are chumps. Actually, I wonder how that goes, in real life? You’re a woman, and your guy is describing this video game about space pirates and warriors to you, and you excitedly ask what _he_ does, and he tells you “oh, I mine the asteroids, at least when the griefers aren’t harassing me.” And then you just _dry up completely_. Must be fun and exciting being with a nice, passive, domesticated man like that! ---
**Author:** ![Ave\_Kathrina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ave_kathrina/32/426886_2.png) [@Ave\_Kathrina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ave_Kathrina)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/154 "2021-01-25T04:41:54Z")
We can’t all be complete nancys. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/155 "2021-01-25T09:11:44Z")
> [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#): > > First victim forced into unwanted pvp : fined a week. There is no such thing as “unwanted PVP.” By playing this game, a person consents to PVP. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/156 "2021-01-25T09:27:49Z")
> [@Gergoran\_Moussou](#): > > a person consents to PVP Being unable to do anything about something is not “consent”, it’s duress. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/157 "2021-01-25T09:30:12Z")
Anyone who chooses to play a PVP game consents to PVP. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/158 "2021-01-25T09:34:43Z")
> [@Gergoran\_Moussou](#): > > Anyone who chooses to play a PVP game EVE is not ONLY a PvP game. It’s also a PvE game. Both have value in EVE. And to ambush a player in the dead of space, restraining him so he’s a sitting duck is not “battle”, it’s an act of Piracy and a cowardly one at that. ---
**Author:** ![Trakoro\_Tolada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trakoro_tolada/32/248953_2.png) [@Trakoro\_Tolada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trakoro_Tolada)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/159 "2021-01-25T09:35:24Z")
Sol is just biting around if i show up because he knows he cannot win and he is not used to THIS concept 😛 His vendetta against people like me is pathological,he just cannot stop and on the funny side he is EXACTLY what he claims me to be without even knowing it. Maybe that’s just sad but it is like it is. Simply ignoring an opinion he doesn’t like is simply not on his agenda he HAS to flame it and the poster. He and 2-3 other here are quite alike,they think they are ‘the good ones’ and fail to see the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/160 "2021-01-25T09:41:55Z")
> [@Trakoro\_Tolada](#): > > He and 2-3 other here are quite alike,they think they are ‘the good ones’ and fail to see the truth They wouldn’t know the truth if it came and sat on their head. ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/161 "2021-01-25T09:42:47Z")
I think what he’s saying is that Eve has rules, and that these rules are knowable ahead of time. With the possible exception of Calvinball, players who play a game agree to be bound by those rules and accept the consequences of any action by their opponents that do not violate those agreed upon rules. The situation we have here is akin to someone losing a piece in a chess match and then wanting to change the rules so it’s not possible for his opponent to take his piece instead of wanting to get better at playing chess the way it is. Everyone should know that if your ship is in space, it can explode. Everyone should know that it applies to combat and non-combat ships alike. Everyone should know that ‘industry’ is _the production of weapons_ and as such anyone at any time may take offense to someone taking resources to manufacture weapons that could be used against them, or to someone taking resources they could use to make weapons for themselves. It’s all well and good to want to play by a different set of rules, but if you want that, make up your own game instead of changing one with rules that are already well known. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/162 "2021-01-25T09:44:21Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > EVE is not ONLY a PvP game. It’s also a PvE game. Both have value in EVE. All PvE elements in EVE are played in the greater context of a PvP sandbox. PvE is not an isolated playstyle like you find it in other games. > [@Red-Sonja](#): > > And to ambush a player in the dead of space, restraining him so he’s a sitting duck is not “battle”, it’s an act of Piracy and a cowardly one at that. Yeah I don’t see how that is even relevant. It is a perfectly good strategy to take advantage of some unprepared player who thought to be save. Does it make you feel better if you call it “not battle” or “cowardly”? ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/163 "2021-01-25T09:45:24Z")
> [@Qia\_Kare](#): > > It’s all well and good to want to play by a different set of rules, but if you want that, make up your own game instead of changing one with rules that are already well known Again, EVE is also a PvE game. And just because someone CAN doesn’t mean they SHOULD. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282/164 "2021-01-25T09:47:15Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Does it make you feel better if you call it “not battle” or “cowardly”? I feel fine, thank you. How are you? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/annual-account-and-ganker/285282.md?page=9)