# Another day spent playing games other than Eve because CCP refuses to enforce its own policies **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [June 12, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262 "2018-06-12T12:19:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hefalumps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hefalumps/32/71770_2.png) [@Hefalumps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hefalumps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/41 "2018-06-12T13:48:21Z")
> [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](#): > > Except it literally doesn’t. They’re just sitting around, being a name in local, playing mind tricks with your weak carebear mind. Let me know when you grow big enough balls to come to nullsec ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/42 "2018-06-12T13:49:30Z")
Let me know when you get big enough balls to undock with another name in local… ---
**Author:** ![Hefalumps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hefalumps/32/71770_2.png) [@Hefalumps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hefalumps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/43 "2018-06-12T13:51:08Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Let me know when you get big enough balls to undock with another name in local… I do it in a combat ship all the time. Doing so in a non-combat ship is just dumb. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/44 "2018-06-12T13:51:53Z")
> [@Hefalumps](#): > > Let me know when you grow big enough balls to come to nullsec I’ve lived for years in nullsec back when EVE was still young and harsh. Before you weaklings showed up and cried so hard that CCP dumbed down EVE to your level. I’ve got no problems moving through nullsec. However, unlike you, I’m going there for PvP, not to bot for RMT income. > [@Hefalumps](#): > > I do it in a combat ship all the time. Doing so in a non-combat ship is just dumb. Stop pretending, kid. You’re not going to fool anyone but yourself. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/45 "2018-06-12T13:52:04Z")
So, you’re looking to bot in a Rorq. Thanks for clearing that up… ---
**Author:** ![Hefalumps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hefalumps/32/71770_2.png) [@Hefalumps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hefalumps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/46 "2018-06-12T13:52:34Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > No they don’t. You can idle in a station or cloaked as long as you need/want to. OK, undocked, yes. And the cloak is the obvious, hypocritical exception. ---
**Author:** ![Tani\_LaDiva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tani_ladiva/32/207484_2.png) [@Tani\_LaDiva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tani_LaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/47 "2018-06-12T13:56:51Z")
You need to travel around Null and low-sec, there are cloaky campers everywhere mostly afk. You haven’t lost anything valuable yet, [https://zkillboard.com/character/92284575/](https://zkillboard.com/character/92284575/) ---
**Author:** ![Hefalumps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hefalumps/32/71770_2.png) [@Hefalumps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hefalumps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/48 "2018-06-12T14:01:51Z")
> [@Tani\_LaDiva](#): > > You need to travel around Null and low-sec, there are cloaky campers everywhere mostly afk And completely safe while undocked > [@Tani\_LaDiva](#): > > You haven’t lost anything valuable yet I wonder why that is… ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/49 "2018-06-12T14:08:42Z")
> [@Hefalumps](#): > > OK, undocked, yes. And the cloak is the obvious, hypocritical exception. The cloak allow you to operate in hostile space where you have no station to dock at. It effectively takes you out of the game - you can’t interact with anything while cloaked as a trade-off for your invisibility. There’s no hypocrisy here - it’s almost exactly just like docking up. You like having the ability to dock up when you need to step away from the keyboard right? No one is expected to stay at the keyboard 23/7. If you use the cloak to step away, you cannot interact with the game universe in a way, and as soon as you do you are immediately vulnerable. It’s all fine. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/50 "2018-06-12T14:57:13Z")
The scream of the nullbear who want to be left alone. ---
**Author:** ![Hefalumps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hefalumps/32/71770_2.png) [@Hefalumps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hefalumps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/51 "2018-06-12T14:57:32Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > The cloak allow you to operate in hostile space where you have no station to dock at. It effectively takes you out of the game - you can’t interact with anything while cloaked as a trade-off for your invisibility. There’s no hypocrisy here - it’s almost exactly just like docking up. You like having the ability to dock up when you need to step away from the keyboard right? Completely safe when undocked. Hyprocisy ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/52 "2018-06-12T15:03:36Z")
Learn to adapt like everyone else. Players cry about bumping and ganking as well but has it stopped them from mining or hauling? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/53 "2018-06-12T15:05:37Z")
then you are doing it wrong. cloaky camper is an impecable way to gain intelligence on a force. All I need, is an alt character, on an alt account, two weeks of training, and I can sit in a system, and watch, record, gather intel, and communicate that intel back to a force whos paying me, or which im working for. The problem isnt the mechanic. its peoples intention. Eve is a great game. IF you want to be a spy and ruin someones day, YOU CAN… its legal. its allowed. ITS EVE… grow up, move to a new system, or, bait them and kill them, then return to your mining 🙂 stop being a puss, hire a merc, kill the cloaky guy, or move. I have sat ins sytems ALL DAY, for HOURS watching and waiting and learning. I think you could benefit from this example if you think about it deeply. ---
**Author:** ![Hefalumps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hefalumps/32/71770_2.png) [@Hefalumps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hefalumps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/54 "2018-06-12T15:08:47Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Dude. It is just a name in local chat. There is no botting going on and the camper isn’t gaining anything while he is away from the keyboard, other than perhaps some satisfaction in generating threads like this when he returns. Doesn’t matter. They’re 100% safe in space, and impacting the game while AFK. Two principles CCP claims to abide by, but doesn’t in this case. hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/55 "2018-06-12T15:09:16Z")
> [@Hefalumps](#): > > Completely safe when undocked. > > Hyprocisy I don’t know. One could argue that demanding that no one should be completely safe when undocked in order to be able to rely on the perfect intel provided by local chat to make themselves completely safe is the hypocrisy. I won’t do that though. I will say however that if and when CCP gets around to fixing AFK cloaking, it will be by tweaking both cloaks and local so that there is some more risk and counter-play for both parties. But that isn’t going to happen as a result of your multi-thread hissy fit. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Gideon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_gideon/32/141713_2.png) [@Marcus\_Gideon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Gideon)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/56 "2018-06-12T15:13:26Z")
They aren’t impacting “the game”, they’re impacting your weak willed psychology. If they’re in a CovOps frigate, they cannot hurt you. But seeing a name in Local is making you piss your pants and cower like a chump. The biggest takeaway from this whole thread, is that @Hefalumps is deathly afraid of new names in chat. And that we should hire as many CovOps to follow them around and just… linger in system playing Hide and Go ■■■■ Yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/57 "2018-06-12T15:58:22Z")
you know this is bull ■■■■ " If they’re in a CovOps frigate, they cannot hurt you." lol thats the best troll ever. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Gideon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_gideon/32/141713_2.png) [@Marcus\_Gideon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Gideon)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/58 "2018-06-12T16:12:52Z")
How much damage does a CovOps Frigate put out? How much damage can an Exhumer tank? And how long will it take that Exhumer’s drones to kill that CovOps Frigate? If they’re in a Force Recon, then sure they could do something to you. But at that point they aren’t “AFK cloaking”, they’re hunting you. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Fractal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_fractal/32/260812_2.png) [@ISD\_Fractal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Fractal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/59 "2018-06-12T16:14:45Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Fractal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_fractal/32/260812_2.png) [@ISD\_Fractal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Fractal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262/60 "2018-06-12T16:17:43Z")
There is a [thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/4731) dedicated to this particular topic. Please direct your comments, suggestions and feedback there. Thread closed. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-day-spent-playing-games-other-than-eve-because-ccp-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-policies/82262.md?page=2)