# Another way to make Carriers useful in PVE **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [September 4, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037 "2025-09-04T09:27:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Edward\_Michael\_Ench](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/edward_michael_ench/32/472543_2.png) [@Edward\_Michael\_Ench](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Edward_Michael_Ench)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/1 "2025-09-04T09:27:57Z")
In addition to my escort idea separately posted, here is a way to allow carriers to defend themselves in PVP Play. Add an additional fighter wing to carriers/super carriers, named Combat Air Patrol. If this fighter wing is launched it will orbit the carrier automatically. It cannot be sent to attack. If the Combat Air Patrol has been launched, and the carrier is fired on by nonfleet drones or fighters, the Combat Air Patrol will automatically begin attacking the offending drones/fighters. OPTION - Alternatively (as in the carrier pilot can fit one or the other) or additionally (the pilot can fit both), a carrier can be given a Torpedo Bomber FIghter Squadron which can only be used to attack enemy capital ships. If possible, make it so its not useful in PVE. This would give a carrier some additional firepower and defensive ability in a fleet action, making their use in fleets more likely. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/2 "2025-09-04T11:43:31Z")
if its 250km away but able to still fire the fighters and provide bursts what do you want, the carrier to be up in everybodies asses? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/3 "2025-09-04T23:58:00Z")
Typo in title. (should read PVP) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/4 "2025-09-05T11:41:06Z")
If a single defensive fighter squad is what could make carriers viable, why don’t carriers already use one of their fighter squads defensively? I don’t think this is what will help carriers. Also please don’t ask for more ‘automated’ defences. EVE combat often already is hands-off enough that some people use a ridiculous amount of clients simultaneously, the game doesn’t need _more_ of that. ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/5 "2025-11-26T17:48:04Z")
I feel like carriers are insane in pve and just got amazing buffs. Carriers are nearly perfect as they stand now imho. ---
**Author:** ![Derlin\_Fishen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derlin_fishen/32/477895_2.png) [@Derlin\_Fishen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derlin_Fishen)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/6 "2025-11-26T22:40:30Z")
Seriously ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/7 "2025-11-26T22:43:09Z")
> [@Derlin\_Fishen](#): > > Seriously Do you have a question? Or is it more of a statement? ---
**Author:** ![Derlin\_Fishen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derlin_fishen/32/477895_2.png) [@Derlin\_Fishen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derlin_Fishen)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/8 "2025-11-26T22:44:10Z")
Agreement? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/9 "2025-11-26T22:44:39Z")
I see, thanks! Was unclear until I saw the like appear. ---
**Author:** ![Cassius\_Valour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cassius_valour/32/479950_2.png) [@Cassius\_Valour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cassius_Valour)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/10 "2025-12-01T18:44:45Z")
Exactly this. The entire reason I like rating with a carrier is that it’s actually high apm active gameplay unlike marauder and especially vni or other drone boats. Nothing automated would be helpful on the carrier. But something kinda cool thinking about how to stop the ai from eating fighters… what if for that support tube they gave us they added a “logi” fighter that could only rep your combat fighters? That could even add some cool pvp aspects as well and add more complexity to be used effectively. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-way-to-make-carriers-useful-in-pve/497037/11 "2026-03-01T18:45:05Z")
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