# Ansiblex jump gates are a mistake **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053 "2019-03-23T12:38:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/77 "2019-04-01T19:13:54Z")
An actual example of projection. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/82 "2019-04-01T20:36:43Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > You mean rude like repeating that this will not work or that and only having a “we did it for 15 years like this” as only answer for any slight change suggestion on your side? That’s not the responses you got when you initially started posting, you got detailed responses explaining why it wouldn’t work and the effects on the game itself. You chose to dismiss those responses with a blithe “I’m right” and thus far have failed to expand upon why you think that you’re right, and why CCP must change a significant part of the game to suit you and those that you claim to represent beyond …mainstream… Your actions, arrogance, hostility and lack of social graces are why people dismiss you and your opinions as irrelevant. You’re rude, and as such you now get rude responses to your agenda. TL;DR You made your own bed, now you get to lie in it. ---
**Author:** ![Marek\_Kanenald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marek_kanenald/32/257788_2.png) [@Marek\_Kanenald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marek_Kanenald)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/83 "2019-04-01T20:56:53Z")
I have to say responses to this thread has been of rather disappointingly low quality unfortunately. I would really appreciate it if people discussed the actual topic. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/84 "2019-04-01T21:04:25Z")
> [@Marek\_Kanenald](#): > > I would really appreciate it if people discussed the actual topic You are correct, I apologise for going off topic I’ll STFU now. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/85 "2019-04-01T21:11:48Z")
> [@Marek\_Kanenald](#): > > actual topic. Unfortunately that’s collateral damage, sorry. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/86 "2019-04-01T22:09:38Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > > [@Marek\_Kanenald](#): > > > > actual topic. > > That’s collateral damage, sorry. > > 😛 Funny how the collateral damage occurred. 🤨 As to the actual topic: The hunters don’t like them but the defenders do. Null sec is no longer the Wild West. Big ~~Blue Donut~~ ACL Club. Diamond rats can be co-opted to destroy the gates. Has anything been missed? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Yumi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_yumi/32/380953_2.png) [@ISD\_Yumi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Yumi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/88 "2019-04-01T22:46:47Z")
Cleaned up a few off topic posts. 🙂 Lets get back to the original discussion please! ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/90 "2019-04-02T01:49:54Z")
> [@Marek\_Kanenald](#): > > Being so convenient is exactly the problem. But I thought that was the whole point, it’s a benefit of holding space? Possibly it’s too easy to hold space… though I don’t believe that’s the case either as it seems those that have extensive ‘JB Networks’ (for want of a better descriptor) are the large entities in-game, which makes sense, right? > [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > Please look at my killboard. I did… it sure is nice of Goons (and their friends) to let you use their infrastructure so your small gang can roam about and kill them 😉 > [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > And the “argument” that there “is no rulebreaking until ccp SAYS it is” is a joke right? Once again, not a joke. So that you know for next time, this is an example of how CCP advises players of an exploit: > **[Exploit Notification - Use Of ESS In Seeker Investigation Sites! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/exploit-notification-use-of-ess-in-seeker-investigation-sites)** > > Check out this news item for details on an exploit notification! It’s really quite simple and not a joking matter at all. Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/91 "2019-04-02T07:16:44Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Null sec is no longer the Wild West. > Big ~~Blue Donut~~ ACL Club. I guess this is end of the thread actually. Like in RL people played with anarchy and barbaric life and then build countries with armies and laws. It is only logical that 15 years of the game will lead to it. The only question should be: is it possible to make people forget about civilization and return to happy survival and insecurity? We have enough fantasy movies to see what could in theory lead to this in RL. Every time it leads to severely reduced human population on the planet. Can this be done in the game? Will it lead to dropping player population even more than now? ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/92 "2019-04-02T08:58:23Z")
Well perhaps if the ACLs could be hacked, that could lead to disruption. ☠ ---
**Author:** ![Marek\_Kanenald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marek_kanenald/32/257788_2.png) [@Marek\_Kanenald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marek_Kanenald)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/93 "2019-04-02T12:19:14Z")
I think it would be already a lot more interesting if the Jump gates were usable by everyone, not just the owner. That way having the gates actually becomes a dual edged sword instead of just a pure win. (just get rid of the fuel cost) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/95 "2019-04-02T15:29:19Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Well perhaps if the ACLs could be hacked, that could lead to disruption. ☠ Something like _Successfully hacking an Ansiblex Jump Gate now modifies the behaviour of the gate, giving it a 20% chance to jump ships using the gate to any random jump gate in the region. There will be no visible signs of the hack. Refuelling the gate reinstates normal behaviour._ ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Norros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_norros/32/249084_2.png) [@ISD\_Norros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Norros)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/106 "2019-04-05T01:13:46Z")
Cleaned thread a bit, some off-topic and arguments. Please remain courteous to all players and stay on topic. ---
**Author:** ![LlamaDrama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/llamadrama/32/153423_2.png) [@LlamaDrama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LlamaDrama)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/107 "2019-04-05T20:07:34Z")
CCP hurt their own game in more ways than one with the addition of these jump gates. The ice market has been dying ever since they were added. I suppose that’s what happens when you take the main use of a certain resource and drastically reduce how much of it is needed. Should have made the new gates require significant isotopes to offset. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/108 "2019-04-11T00:28:34Z")
I’ll take Blue Donut for 200, Alex ---
**Author:** ![Acac\_Sunflyier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/acac_sunflyier/32/403457_2.png) [@Acac\_Sunflyier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Acac_Sunflyier)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/109 "2019-04-11T22:44:06Z")
AlI hear are anti-Goon tears. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/110 "2019-04-15T17:59:37Z")
I hear nothing. How do you do that?? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Marek\_Kanenald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marek_kanenald/32/257788_2.png) [@Marek\_Kanenald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marek_Kanenald)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/111 "2019-04-16T09:57:40Z")
Didn’t you get the memo? Any form of discussion about game mechanics is considered anti-Goon. This is a feature that is bad for the game regardless of what block players are part of. I have already explained why and what a possible solution would be. ---
**Author:** ![LulKlz\_Duster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulklz_duster/32/129692_2.png) [@LulKlz\_Duster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LulKlz_Duster)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/112 "2019-04-18T19:11:30Z")
We will have an Eve Super Highway!!! From Delve to the drone lands and everywhere in between. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ansiblex-jump-gates-are-a-mistake/148053/113 "2019-07-17T19:11:39Z")
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