# Anti-ganking measures

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [November 6, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594 "2021-11-06T19:54:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/21 "2021-11-08T17:32:12Z")

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> [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](#):
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> feature whereby a player could recruit an NPC as a bodyguard to defend them in case of a ganking?

nothing that can be done by a player should ever be done by an NPC. though you don’t really need a body guard. Pay attention and don’t make yourself a target.

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/22 "2021-11-08T17:34:23Z")

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> [@Zoiie](#):
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> Would be nice to have these systems show indicators for this on the HUD though rather than have to keep referring to a web page.

the point is to avoid harassing new players not to be a safe haven

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**Author:** ![Wilkinson87\_Akachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wilkinson87_akachi/32/289965_2.png) [@Wilkinson87\_Akachi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wilkinson87_Akachi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/23 "2021-11-09T16:05:10Z")

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Code and similar corps are can.er, but they part of eve online unfortunately.But thanks to them I stopped sinking real money to eve online, and completely stopped playing eve 🙂 . After multiple encounter with them ( literally I done nothing) first they popped my noctis in high sec, then few of my mining barges, even when I was in a group they managed to kill me first it was enough for me to give upxD I love the game rly, but no reason to dock out with anything cuz code and similar corps gonna make sure to ruin ur day…I still accept the fact that they are part of the game, but not like itXD

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/24 "2021-11-09T19:03:35Z")

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> [@Wilkinson87\_Akachi](#):
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> Code and similar corps are can.er, but they part of eve online unfortunately.But thanks to them I stopped sinking real money to eve online, and completely stopped playing eve 🙂 .

If you’ve completely stopped playing, then completely stop posting.

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**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/25 "2021-11-09T22:08:38Z")

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My ship is as tanked as my skills allow, and I NEVER go afk.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/26 "2021-11-12T17:55:48Z")

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Its possible to make no mistake, do everything right, and still get ganked… its an indication something is broken with the mechanics.

There should ALWAYS be some counter-play to griefers, the fact that there isn’t in some situations, is a problem.

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**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/27 "2021-11-12T22:50:59Z")

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Excuse the all-caps but I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

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**Author:** ![Von\_DeMoreno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_demoreno/32/491525_2.png) [@Von\_DeMoreno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_DeMoreno)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/28 "2021-11-13T04:22:51Z")

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It’s also possible to make no mistakes in a chess game and still get checkmated. That’s not a broken mechanic in chess, it’s just how the game is played. Sometimes you will lose no matter what you do.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/29 "2021-11-13T21:12:27Z")

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Eve isn’t a chess game where all things are equal. Eve is about as far from chess as you can get; fair fights are almost never taken.

Bad comparison.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/30 "2021-11-13T21:13:57Z")

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In today’s incarnation, eve is trash that only caters to gankers. PA/CCP are coasting, selling SP and trying to extract as much cash as they can before it crashes.

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**Author:** ![Ararma\_Hartel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ararma_hartel/32/300692_2.png) [@Ararma\_Hartel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ararma_Hartel)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/31 "2021-12-12T09:41:15Z")

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this system rewards such behavior thats was the reason because many people stopped playing eve myself inclusive , tried it again and now i see why i did it… ganking lvl 4 mission runners without any consequences shows me that the system is broken

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/32 "2021-12-12T16:59:45Z")

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There are consequences - their ships get blown up by CONCORD and they take a hit to their security standings.

Those consequences may not be sufficient to deter them, but there are consequences.

Regardless, this is EVE Online. You are not safe in this game unless you’re docked up in a station, and even there you aren’t 100% safe from everything. Dealing with loss is part of the game. You want to run level 4 missions, you have to be ready to deal with gankers.

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**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/33 "2021-12-12T19:46:49Z")

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Should the consequences be more severe?

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/34 "2021-12-12T22:26:40Z")

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I don’t think there’s anything fundamentally wrong with how things work right now, honestly. I don’t think it’s a priority to change it.

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**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/35 "2021-12-18T19:43:47Z")

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In other words, the gankee’s job is to become less of a target for the ganker?

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**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/36 "2021-12-19T02:52:19Z")

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That’s a good start

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/37 "2021-12-19T15:38:08Z")

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This is the way:

[https://wiki.pushx.net/index.php?title=Asset\_Protection](https://wiki.pushx.net/index.php?title=Asset_Protection)

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**Author:** ![Von\_DeMoreno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_demoreno/32/491525_2.png) [@Von\_DeMoreno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_DeMoreno)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/38 "2021-12-20T07:08:16Z")

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The intelligence of most NPCs wouldn’t make for a terribly formidable guard, unless they were on par with CONCORD, which is overpowered on purpose. Gankers play the game of trying to kill targets, and part of the game we play as would-be targets is avoiding gankers.

The gankers play their game well. It’s our job to rise to the occasion and outsmart them, be prepared, make ourselves less appealing, and try to survive. That’s part of the challenge of what makes EVE fun.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/39 "2021-12-26T08:18:06Z")

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Not everyone wants to accomplish being a PvP pilot but are more comfortable accomplishing being a MIner.

Gatecamps in Hi-Sec were never a thing to begin with.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-measures/335594/40 "2021-12-26T08:20:25Z")

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Hi-Sec gankers get to employ the use of NPC’s in their game by pulling Concord away and making response times slightly slower.

Why can’t non-gankers also be able to employ NPC’s in their game play, just slightly though, like the gankers do, but in defense of their mining barges?

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