# Any theories on why so many people have quit over the last 2 years? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537 "2017-08-09T14:30:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1254 "2017-11-12T15:26:21Z")
If I was you I’d be taking a look at my own behaviour before accusing others of being childish. ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1255 "2017-11-12T15:53:51Z")
How is it tears that I am pointing out how shitty your game really is in a thread that is asking for it? LOL! Its pretty funny how irrational so many of the EVE defenders really are. FYI, I’m used full loot mmorpgs that actually require player skills, and that don’t allow shitty players to prey on others through poorly designed game mechanics. I’ve been checking back on EVE once in a while to see if CCP pulls their head out of their ass, as there aren’t any other spaceship mmorpg games like this, but they never do. All my previous criticism is valid. To add to that, players can’t do anything to meaningfully punish the hordes of pathetic, risk-averse grief monkeys who spend all their time in high sec preying on noobs who have been given a false sense of security. It is really astonishing how some random a-holes are STILL allowed to come into your level 4 mission and blow up your objective or whatever just to ■■■■ with you, giving you a massive standing hit for mission failure, and there is nothing you can really do about it, and what you can do to try to prevent this from happening is an extreme amount of effort and ridiculously impractical. It is like the same as requiring a small fleet to protect your 1-hulk veldspar mining operation. Another major problem with this game is you how gimped you are as a solo player. What is it going to take for these irrational EVE defenders to wake up and pull their head out of their ass? A good game with so much continuous content and changes shouldn’t be dying like it is. ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1256 "2017-11-12T15:59:29Z")
LOL! Says a guy who has practically lived on these forums for years. Is there anyone who takes you seriously who isn’t also a pathetic loser? Face it. You are a joke.😁 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1257 "2017-11-12T16:08:13Z")
Pot, kettle, black. Beyond a piss poor attempt at denigration you fail to address the point I was making. Which of us is the person who has used multiple alts to get round bans in order to send expletive ridden Eve-mails to those who disagree with their pants on head diatribes? @Dracvlad Don’t encourage him, he’s a tool. As much as you and I have disagreed in the past, you’re better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1258 "2017-11-12T16:18:32Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > @Dracvlad Don’t encourage him, he’s a tool. As much as you and I have disagreed in the past, you’re better than that. Well played sir, that was a good slap and made me chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1259 "2017-11-12T16:22:21Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Pot, kettle, black. > > Beyond a piss poor attempt at denigration you fail to address the point I was making. > > Which of us is the person who has used multiple alts to get round bans in order to send expletive ridden Eve-mails to those who disagree with their pants on head diatribes? F-ing classic! In typical loser fashion, you are only capable of attacking posters (weakly) instead of their arguments. Thanks for proving my point.😁 Sorry, clown, but no rational person can possibly take someone as dumb and pathetic as you seriously. You are a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1260 "2017-11-12T16:23:13Z")
> [@Fabulous\_Rod](#): > > FYI, I’m used full loot mmorpgs that actually require player skills, and that don’t allow shitty players to prey on others through poorly designed game mechanics. Sweet sweet nectar. P.S. Watching Salvos get all twisted up into a knot and called out on his own carebear bull\*\*\*\* is fun. Would read again. I love it when he starts his “nuh-uh!” assertions: “I’m very pragmatic!” “I don’t whine!” Lolololololol ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1261 "2017-11-12T16:23:24Z")
Once again Pot, kettle, black. ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1262 "2017-11-12T16:26:31Z")
LOL, its actually funny that morons like you think you are accomplishing anything by attacking me other than embarrassing yourself. Your knee-jerk reaction to criticism of your favorite game is telling of your child-like mentality. Must suck to be stupid.😁 ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1263 "2017-11-12T16:27:18Z")
Miner, calm down. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1264 "2017-11-12T19:12:28Z")
We should search theories outside EVE space. Be patient and watch the video blog of one of the Hearthstone player, which is a team member of E-SPORT SOLOMID and is a very experienced MMORPG player (tried a lot of MMORPGs, is one of the best WoW PVE hunter during TBC-Wotlk era, got [Diablo 3] World First Diablo Kill On Hardcore Inferno and etc). It’s not an absolute answer, it’s one important principle among many. He talks about general problem with minimum Hearthstone terminology and trolling. A player familiar with that game will understand the issue much better. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1265 "2017-11-12T19:29:53Z")
> [@Fabulous\_Rod](#): > > LOL! It is actually funny all the stupid assumptions you are making. > > Instead of getting butt-mad and attacking others when someone criticizes the obviously shitty aspects of your favorite game, try thinking before you post. Pot meet kettle. Here you are hurling invective every where and are now butt hurt when people suggest that perhaps your problem is you don’t understand the game. > [@Fabulous\_Rod](#): > > Irrational, knee-jerk defenders like you are part of the problem. Someone as childish as you has no business telling anyone “what an adult would do”. > > Truth hurts? > > Deal with it. You sound like somebody who does not want a discussion, but a petulant child throwing a tantrum. > [@Fabulous\_Rod](#): > > F-ing classic! > > In typical loser fashion, you are only capable of attacking posters (weakly) instead of their arguments. Thanks for proving my point.😁 > > Sorry, clown, but no rational person can possibly take someone as dumb and pathetic as you seriously. You are a joke. Wow…you really are upset. Maybe you should take a break. I did, worked wonders. ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1266 "2017-11-13T05:29:42Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > You sound like somebody who does not want a discussion, but a petulant child throwing a tantrum. That would be you. Instead of attempting to argue against valid criticism that has been voiced thousands of times over, you attack the poster with baseless and stupid assumptions. In example, on criticism on scams being unpoliced, You: “HERPA DERPA, YOU MUST HAVE FALLEN FOR A SCAM!” 🙈🙉🙊 Obviously, someone as childish and brainless as you should probably refrain from posting, lest every discussion devolve into you getting slammed for being stupid. But by all means, continue. It is actually pretty funny to see dumb kids like you take it personally when someone criticizes your favorite game. As if you are saying: “When you criticize EVE, you criticize me!”. Take a look, you haven’t accomplished anything other than make an utter fool of yourself. Are you so dunning kruger that you really don’t realize that? 😆 EVE was the only option for space ships mmorpg for years and they ■■■■■■ it up. Being an older game has very little to do with it. The deniers just look completely retarded at this point, and no-lifers like tecknos, jonah, jenna have demonstrated that beyond a shadow of a doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1267 "2017-11-13T05:36:02Z")
Well did you fall for a scam? If not, then what is the problem? If you can spot them and avoid them…what concern is it of yours? That somebody lets their greed, laziness and foolishness get the better of them is not my problem…nor is it your problem. ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1268 "2017-11-13T05:44:05Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > Well did you fall for a scam? If not, then what is the problem? It is comical that you are so stupid that you still can’t see the issue in a thread like this, and can only assume that I fell for a scam.😂 Haven’t you embarrassed yourself enough? Try asking yourself for a moment, what does abusing shitty mechanics to scam people bring to the game? It really is astonishing how clueless so many of you irrational EVE defenders really are. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1269 "2017-11-13T05:46:31Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/1/c1ce764e86baa6f08941fea7f1729f4e80e69ce9.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1270 "2017-11-13T05:46:38Z")
The nature of the game is that if you do something foolish and imprudent then others can and often will take advantage of it…what is the big deal? This has been how the game has worked since the very beginning. Sounds like you just do not like this kind of a game. If so you should quit before you have a stroke or something. ---
**Author:** ![Fabulous\_Rod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fabulous_rod/32/34799_2.png) [@Fabulous\_Rod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fabulous_Rod)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1271 "2017-11-13T05:48:34Z")
oh, no the meme posts have started from more of the same no-life losers i saw living on this forum for the past 5 years. What will I ever do ? 🤣 Do you dumb and desperate clowns actually think you are winning? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1272 "2017-11-13T05:50:35Z")
So if a player blind jumps to a jump beacon in his super, gets tackled and is killed is that some sort of “shitty mechanic”? How is that kind of foolishness and imprudence different from falling for a scam? Can you answer without being a total butt hurt cry baby who needs a time out? **Edit:** Oh, and I see you are not answering the question…did you fall for a scam? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/1273 "2017-11-13T05:58:58Z")
> [@Fabulous\_Rod](#): > > Do you dumb and desperate clowns actually think you are winning? calm down miner There is no need to be so hostile. I’m sure if you just calm down a bit and tell us what happened we can all have a mature discussions about where you are wrong about the whole thing. Did you get scammed? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537.md?page=62) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537.md?page=64)