# Any Way To Have Fun In This Game Without Grinding Yet?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 5, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171 "2018-07-05T08:55:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/61 "2018-07-05T10:16:09Z")

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> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#):
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> Also, I’m an evil, bad person who doesn’t deserve his friends and whom should be hung, drawn, and quartered, with the remains burned in case my evilness is contagious.

I never said that.  
You did.

> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#):
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> That’s still not an argument against any of my positions.

There is no arguing with opinions.

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/62 "2018-07-05T10:18:13Z")

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Yes there is. First of all, the fact you call my positions an ‘opinion’ is also just an opinion. What now? Cuz ‘that’s just your opinion man’ goes both ways. I have flat earthers telling me what my ‘opinion’ is all the time. Why’s your opinion of my opinion even relevant? Why point out that it’s my ‘opinion’ if for no other reason than to dismiss it as an attempt to forgo any requirement to prove my opinion wrong?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/63 "2018-07-05T10:19:18Z")

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Nothing. Guy did not play EVE, has no clue and has nothing valid to say. What else to expect from a carebear?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/64 "2018-07-05T10:21:29Z")

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> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#):
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> First of all, the fact you call my positions an ‘opinion’ is also just an opinion.

It was and is just your opinion.  
That is a fact.

Then you started with insults.  
Also a fact.

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/65 "2018-07-05T10:22:12Z")

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Well, I accept you have no argument against my ‘opinion’ leaving it unopposed with no demonstration that it is actually wrong in any way.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/66 "2018-07-05T10:23:42Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> There is no arguing with opinions

There is no “best way” to play EVE.  
Just the way you choose to play.

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/67 "2018-07-05T10:26:04Z")

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Yes, I know what you said, which is why I’ve concluded that the only reason you called it an ‘opinion’ was exactly so you could dismiss it as not worth arguing about. I never argued a ‘best way’, I made a case explaining why you can’t get by in this game without player interaction to some degree or another. You called it an ‘opinion’ and made no case against it other than it’s an ‘opinion’.

The problem is, I made an argument. Whether it’s an opinion or not is completely irrelevant. And you can repeat ‘there is no arguing with opinions’ all you like, the fact is, you argue with them all the time. All the time, Salvos. So don’t start this bull\*\*\*\* here just because it’s a convenient way for you to get out of admitting, for once in your pathetic life, that you’re actually wrong.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/68 "2018-07-05T10:28:14Z")

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Salvos?

You two are of the kind of never stopping, so, once, I ask you to stop. There is no point in this and it’s just the same procedure that gets people banned eventually.

Now I realize I can already tell you “i told you so”, because you already had a ban.

Told you so. Now listen to me, else it’ll happen again. The Frequency of making posts, remember?

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/69 "2018-07-05T10:28:28Z")

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Quickly salvos. Point out how I insulted you again and I’m a bad man. Anything to draw attention away from how wrong you are.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/70 "2018-07-05T10:28:48Z")

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> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#):
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> Whether it’s an opinion or not is completely irrelevant.

You claimed it as the “best way” as a fact, when its not a fact. Just your opinion.

Then you started with and continued with insults.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/71 "2018-07-05T10:31:28Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Salvos?

Remiel can have his last word.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/72 "2018-07-05T10:31:33Z")

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> [@Nuvraught\_YouTuber](#):
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> All these replies from people with multiple instances of the game open to harvest asteroids more efficiently and chat to other middle aged men all the while bots actively exploit and grind for people on 1,000 accounts just so you can do what other games let you do for free minus the grinding. Minus the forced social interaction. The ultimate hilarity is since you invested so much energy into a database number that could easily be manipulated in seconds you’re trapped to your accounts which could literally be edited, duplicated, deleted in a matter of seconds. What a disgusting pyramid casino gambling addiction scheme you found yourselves in. 😃

All wrong.

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/73 "2018-07-05T10:32:02Z")

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Please link the post I made arguing a ‘best way’ for anything. Be careful that you’ve actually accurately interpreted what I’m saying. Then, when you can’t find anything, please feel free to continue sputtering and mumbling about how your paw wittle feelings are hurt (they aren’t, you’re just trying to distract from the arguments I’ve made because you have no counters) and carry on being bad at EVE and unable to perceive the possibility that you might be wrong (you are, you’re almost always wrong, which is probably why you’re such a contrarian, you’re being wrong all the time for the attention and someone to talk to. also explains why you made a desperate video for me. go get a girlfriend, dude)

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/74 "2018-07-05T10:43:41Z")

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@Remiel_Pollard @Salvos_Rhoska

Who the fuq cares…your argument right now is so off topic…  
Just shut up and quit acting like children.  
jesus christ

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/75 "2018-07-05T10:44:43Z")

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**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/76 "2018-07-05T10:53:01Z")

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> [@Nuvraught\_YouTuber](#):
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> I’ve demo’d this game ever since it came out but never could play it for more than a few days. I just don’t enjoy grinding in this particular game. Maybe I don’t even like the mechanics of this game, lol. Just curious if you still have to grind for a long time to have any fun in it or did they make a instant action mechanic yet for people who just want to jump in and jump out.

You’re suppose to buy your fun, not grind your fun.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/77 "2018-07-05T11:55:28Z")

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> [@Nuvraught\_YouTuber](#):
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> Just curious if you still have to grind for a long time to have any fun in it

No you don’t have to grind to have fun. It’s a sandbox and you can do whatever you want.

> [@Nuvraught\_YouTuber](#):
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> did they make a instant action mechanic yet for people who just want to jump in and jump out.

There are multiple ways to get fast action, but they are sometimes not obvious as they are still part of the sandbox. There is no instanced taged on minigame like other MMOs feature it sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Nuvraught\_YouTuber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nuvraught_youtuber/32/83104_2.png) [@Nuvraught\_YouTuber](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuvraught_YouTuber)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/78 "2018-07-05T12:18:24Z")

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pay 2 win lol

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**Author:** ![Drigo\_Segvian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drigo_segvian/32/325541_2.png) [@Drigo\_Segvian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drigo_Segvian)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/79 "2018-07-05T12:37:12Z")

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Pubg is \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>

I would ask for your stuff but it sounds like you don’t have any 🤔

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-way-to-have-fun-in-this-game-without-grinding-yet/87171/80 "2018-07-05T12:52:40Z")

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Buy PLEX. Sell PLEX. Have fun. No grinding necessary.

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