# Apple announced they will be dropping Intel silicon **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862 "2020-06-23T07:31:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/41 "2020-06-26T13:54:28Z")
ATI is dead ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/42 "2020-06-26T17:39:05Z")
> [@Magnus\_Carta](#): > > People have been saying that for a while now. Yeah, people like Gabe Newell, but what does he know. > [@Magnus\_Carta](#): > > And none of those things come true anyway. I’m gaming on Linux exclusively for over 20 years. For the most time it wasn’t something regular people would enjoy. However, for the last 5 years, things are improving very rapidly to the point where it is now far more convenient to use Linux overall and some games even start to perform better with wine than on win10. As for AMD drivers, on Linux they are part of the kernel, work out of the box and Valve even made a shader precompiler that improves performance drastically. And don’t worry man it’s not complicated. All you lose is a pile of garbage that is borderline malware called windows 10. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/43 "2020-06-26T19:13:23Z")
Moved to a more appropriate place. ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/44 "2020-06-27T13:43:48Z")
> **[This Week in Google 565 The Vile Little Puppet Man | TWiT.TV](https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-google/episodes/565)** > > Apple shifts to its own chips - will Google? The fastest computer in the world runs on ARM Apple Silicon Macs won't run Windows in Boot Camp iOS 14 takes the best features of Andro… ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/45 "2020-06-29T08:18:36Z")
While that’s true, people also always have been saying that raytracing is the future of graphics. Even an nvidia guy said, on a stage, that it _always_ will be the _future_ of graphics, implying that it will never hit the present. Ignoring that real time ray tracing has been a thing since the 90s, on CPUs, here we are with DVR and RTX. The same goes with AI, too. ---
**Author:** ![ariel\_jade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ariel_jade/32/379632_2.png) [@ariel\_jade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ariel_jade)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/46 "2020-07-03T10:15:56Z")
They had some interesting things to say. ---
**Author:** ![ariel\_jade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ariel_jade/32/379632_2.png) [@ariel\_jade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ariel_jade)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/47 "2020-07-03T10:18:37Z")
This is sad because ATI was the first company to make graphic cards for Apple computers. ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/48 "2020-07-03T10:32:42Z")
> [@ariel\_jade](#): > > They had some interesting things to say. I worked there, and, work there. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/49 "2020-07-03T11:18:26Z")
Bring back the Apple clones :smug: Not ever going to happen again 🙂 Nearly killed them last time ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/50 "2020-07-03T11:32:06Z")
> **[Apple Silicon may have killed the PC as we know it | ZDNet](https://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-may-have-killed-the-pc-as-we-know-it/)** > > Replacing Intel Core processors with Apple Silicon is huge, but replacing Xeon chips would be a whole other matter. > **[Apple Silicon gets the benchmark treatment — first results are amazing](https://www.laptopmag.com/news/apple-silicon-gets-the-benchmark-treatment-first-results-are-amazing)** > > Apple Silicon appears set to go toe-to-toe with Intel already > **[Apple Silicon Macs will be cheaper than Intel Macs, right? | ZDNet](https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-silicon-macs-will-be-cheaper-than-intel-macs-right/)** > > Pull up a chair, friend, and let me tell you a thing or two about a little company called Apple. - > **[PowerPC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC)** > > PowerPC (with the backronym Performance Optimization With Enhanced RISC – Performance Computing, sometimes abbreviated as PPC) is a reduced instruction set computer (RISC) instruction set architecture (ISA) created by the 1991 Apple–IBM–Motorola alliance, known as AIM. PowerPC, as an evolving instruction set, has since 2006 been named Power ISA, while the old name lives on as a trademark for some implementations of Power Architecture–based processors. > PowerPC was the cornerstone of AIM's PReP ... > **[x86](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86)** > > x86 is a family of instruction set architectures\[a\] initially developed by Intel based on the Intel 8086 microprocessor and its 8088 variant. The 8086 was introduced in 1978 as a fully 16-bit extension of Intel's 8-bit 8080 microprocessor, with memory segmentation as a solution for addressing more memory than can be covered by a plain 16-bit address. The term "x86" came into being because the names of several successors to Intel's 8086 processor end in "86", including the 80186, 80286, 80386 a... > **[ARM architecture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture)** > > Arm (previously officially written all caps as ARM and usually written as such today), previously Advanced RISC Machine, originally Acorn RISC Machine, is a family of reduced instruction set computing (RISC) architectures for computer processors, configured for various environments. Arm Holdings develops the architecture and licenses it to other companies, who design their own products that implement one of those architectures‍—‌including systems-on-chips (SoC) and systems-on-modules (SoM) tha... > **[Reduced instruction set computer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced_instruction_set_computer)** > > A reduced instruction set computer, or RISC (/rɪsk/), is a computer with a small, highly-optimized set of instructions, rather than the more specialized set often found in other types of architecture, such as in a complex instruction set computer (CISC). > The main distinguishing feature of RISC architecture is that the instruction set is optimized with a large number of registers and a highly regular instruction pipeline, allowing a low number of clock cycles per instruction (CPI). > Another com [https://support.apple.com/en-ca/boot-camp](https://support.apple.com/en-ca/boot-camp) ---
**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/51 "2020-07-07T05:51:22Z")
@Solecist_Projekt well we will see if or if not … i am sure CCP will make the step if it pays out for them its not like “ok we switch and then its only the ARM mac left” … they have to do 2 different clients for mac for a few years … and yes you can recompile code … if you want … but you need to test everything and you have to manually work on the code to … so its then 3 clients for CCP to maintain … so its not just hit the butten “recompile for arm mac” and thats it … its work and work costs money > [@Solecist\_Projekt](#): > > I can tell you, ARM has an extremely powerful assembly language. > These CPUs have features many people wished x86 would have. yea … possible … its impressive what they can run on a smartphone or tablet but you cant tell me you can trade off a AMD R7 or a Intel i7 for a ARM when it comes to raw power … not features and such stuff … power … next thing is … you want to combine it with a AMD/nVidia grafik card or use the ARM Mali grafik? same with the raw power … ARM and its grafik is not bad … hell no its awesome and i wish amd and intel would bring some stuff arm allready has but when it comes down to raw power it cant compete (yet) … and its not only 2 years … the change from apple power cpus to mac intel cpus was a thing of more then 6 years in reality … apple was done in shorter time but the people out there have there own thoughts … if you bought a macbook for 3000 … 3500 … 4000$ or a mac pro for 50.000+ you will not change in a year or two … and apple cant let them get unsupportet in 2 years … so it will take longer and it will cost money JuuR ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/apple-announced-they-will-be-dropping-intel-silicon/250862/52 "2020-10-05T05:51:30Z")
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