# \[ARC\] Implications of Jovian Gate Discoveries **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589 "2023-08-27T02:20:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/21 "2023-08-28T16:50:45Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > which should tell you something. That Maldavius (whoever they are, not a name I personally am familiar with) doesn’t have grabby hands ? ---
**Author:** ![Afrin\_Aramoth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/afrin_aramoth/32/491109_2.png) [@Afrin\_Aramoth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Afrin_Aramoth)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/22 "2023-08-28T18:29:44Z")
Considering he’s a pilot who ran for office on a Triglavian ticket. I’d say he has very grabby hands. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/23 "2023-08-28T19:09:17Z")
Remilia knows of whom I speak. ---
**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/25 "2023-09-05T05:47:19Z")
While the “where” is a very interesting question, i look forward as to the “why”. Why share the information? Is this a situation that requires (mostly) organic actors to activate systems that refuse whatever Drifters / Triglavian / Rogue Drones are ? Crash test dummies to test the waters? Powerplay to change the power dynamics of CONCORD and SoCT by giving more resources to the other organizations? With the current changes on the Universe, there are so many intricate relations, front and backstage, that i would not be surprised if this is another proxy war using capsuleers as the ever reliant test subjects. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/26 "2023-09-05T09:20:49Z")
When is a gift not a gift? ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/27 "2023-09-05T14:47:41Z")
@Morgana_Tsukiyo has returned! Please come back to space, Morgana. We miss you. Big hugs. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/28 "2023-09-05T22:06:31Z")
The information was not willingly shared. The Guri Malakim stole the info from the Jove, Deathless Circle found the actual gates and invited the Guri Malakim in, and we stole the info from Guristas and Angel wrecks. The only willing transfer of info was from those capsuleers that found the gates to SoCT in exchange for ISK. ---
**Author:** ![Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kitaula_kuusa_jouhinen/32/498716_2.png) [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kitaula_Kuusa_Jouhinen)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/29 "2023-09-05T23:31:18Z")
Stole the info from the Jove? How? I thought they were supposed to be a dead entity, are you saying looting derelict structures is theft now? Because if so, lots of people out there committing theft right now. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/30 "2023-09-06T00:33:59Z")
Tomb or grave robbing’s traditionally theft (and arguably worse than robbing the living, depending on who you ask). Also just because a society’s gone to bits doesn’t mean everyone’s gone; there may still be a whole lot of local Jove about, perhaps struggling to survive, perhaps not. I mean, it was inevitable that people were going to go for it anyway; who’s got time for moral squeamishness when there’s power, money, and, more to the point, organizational and/or national interests at stake? But yes, stealing from the dead is indeed traditionally supposed to be bad. Not to be confused with “salvage” which is fine for … reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/31 "2023-09-06T04:09:52Z")
It’s likely that the activities of the Guri Malakim during this year’s Capsuleer Day celebrations served to reawaken some functions of the Jove Observatories scattered throughout New Eden, namely whatever is responsible for the dispensation of the symbolic navigators. And the Jove Directorate, as a political entity, is indeed entirely defunct, with their inheritance having been left to the SoCT. We know nothing of what any remaining third empire Jove may be up to these days, as they’ve been silent for many years. ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/32 "2023-09-06T20:16:05Z")
> [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#): > > When is a gift not a gift? When it is given in bad faith? ---
**Author:** ![PorceIain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/porceiain/32/476273_2.png) [@PorceIain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PorceIain)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/33 "2023-09-21T06:24:41Z")
> [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](#): > > When it is given in bad faith? Indeed. I often receive gifts and letters from those who follow and admire my spotless combat record, but one day I opened a beautifully wrapped gift box ( with traditional Kääri wrapping paper! ) only to find a miniature unstable singularity within. Needless to say it ruined my mood for the rest of the day. ---
**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/34 "2023-09-22T00:43:00Z")
diggaz? ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/35 "2023-09-22T09:38:17Z")
I have been gaining experience engaging against Sleepers and Drifters. I’m prepared to jump through the gate and explore Zarzakh. Anyone else planning to take the plunge? ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/37 "2023-09-22T13:10:21Z")
> [@Amicia\_Cora](#): > > As a side note, the fact that Zarzakh appears to be another A0 star system unnerves me. Our Triglavian friends have made clear what they’re willing to do to obtain control of those stars, as have we seen ourselves what horrors can take place when they’re experimented upon in error. The Jovian gates are only in A0 Blue Small star solar systems to begin with, so it’s no surprise Zarzakh is as well. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/38 "2023-09-22T14:22:39Z")
Look, there is only one proper Amarrian response to all this — send in a giant Reclaiming fleet to conquer and enslave everything on the the other side, which according to Book of Reclaiming 22:13 already belongs to the Empire anyway. That anti-Empress Catiz is not doing this is further proof that the Throne is Vacant. ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/39 "2023-09-22T17:20:41Z")
If you happen to be bugged by those Zarzakh warclone vanguard, give me a ping and I will sell you some of my own _stock_ for protection 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/40 "2023-09-22T20:39:49Z")
> [@Amicia\_Cora](#): > > Honestly, I’d rather see a CONCORD-wide joint-empire initiative to explore the system and take control of it from this so called ‘Deathless Circle’, than leave it to capsuleers to make what they want of matters. Agreed, but are any of us naive enough to think they will? That might involve getting off their rears and _doing_ something. ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/41 "2023-09-22T20:41:32Z")
The CONCORD will probably hole itself up in Yulai and leave us all on our own 🙂 And that’s fine 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PorceIain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/porceiain/32/476273_2.png) [@PorceIain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PorceIain)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589/42 "2023-09-23T01:35:21Z")
Is it safe? I’ve been planning on bringing my yacht through but have been hearing strange rumors of hull damage when straying away from the gate… worrying. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-implications-of-jovian-gate-discoveries/417589.md?page=3)