# \[ARC\] Joined operation request to the Empires, EDENCOM and loyal capsuleers **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927 "2021-05-07T21:28:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Adreland\_Deninard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adreland_deninard/32/277761_2.png) [@Adreland\_Deninard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adreland_Deninard)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/263 "2021-05-14T20:53:47Z")
The Triglavian Gods will soon rule you all anyway. If you wise to rush to your deaths, we will oblige you. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/264 "2021-05-14T20:54:43Z")
Because ARC is with edencom, don’t pretend you are something else. ---
**Author:** ![Issac\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issac_taredi/32/435383_2.png) [@Issac\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issac_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/265 "2021-05-14T20:55:56Z")
security would have been escort ships, not a terrestrial invasion force. Fat lot of good atmospheric combat forces did in space. This was a covert operation, plain and simple. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/266 "2021-05-14T20:59:23Z")
EDENCOM is a loose affiliation of four empires who don’t necessarily all get along very well. ARC is an international research organization. EM is a Republic loyal paramilitary alliance. Both fought against Triglavians when they _invaded our homes._ Both fought them around the cluster for reasons ranging from garnering good will to get reciprocation on invasions to our home to wearing down the Triglavians to apolitically helping people. You have an obsession with ‘EDENCOM’ when it’s barely a thing anymore. It’s kind of funny that the Triglavian sympathizers seem to be the only groups that care specifically about ‘EDENCOM’ as an entity. The rest of us just don’t like people who invade our homes and pointed our guns in the same direction at them. > [@Issac\_Taredi](#): > > security would have been escort ships, not a terrestrial invasion force. If they’ll shoot at you in space, they’ll shoot at you on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/267 "2021-05-14T21:01:28Z")
Guilty by association, you fight once for edencom, you will be label as an extension of edencom ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/268 "2021-05-14T21:02:13Z")
Here’s what I don’t understand about the Kyber opposition to ARC and even EDENCOM and EM: Isn’t that what you _wanted_? I mean, the point of the invasion was Cladistic Proving, right? So you _needed_ an OPFOR. How would coming in and rolling over a complete lack of opposition prove… _anything_? ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/269 "2021-05-14T21:02:20Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > Guilty by association, you fight once for edencom, you will be label as an extension of edencom Funny how often this kind of thing goes both ways ---
**Author:** ![Issac\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issac_taredi/32/435383_2.png) [@Issac\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issac_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/270 "2021-05-14T21:03:52Z")
This was not security. They brought marines. They brought arms. They brought smartfab units. They brought fighters. This was an occupying force, carrying arms and equipment intended for prolonged terrestrial operations. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/271 "2021-05-14T21:04:56Z")
It could just as easily be been as the means to defend the LZ. ---
**Author:** ![YamiFreighter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yamifreighter/32/384441_2.png) [@YamiFreighter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YamiFreighter)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/272 "2021-05-14T21:05:18Z")
All those minor victory systems. AKA “Worlds of the Forest” Let’s make them Major. I’m up for invasion round 2 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Issac\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issac_taredi/32/435383_2.png) [@Issac\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issac_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/273 "2021-05-14T21:05:41Z")
you dont build structures at an LZ. you dont hand out arms at an LZ for a supposedly peaceful extraction. ---
**Author:** ![Svreja\_Bjokor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/svreja_bjokor/32/273061_2.png) [@Svreja\_Bjokor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Svreja_Bjokor)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/274 "2021-05-14T21:06:00Z")
As much as I’m hesitant to give any credence to it, it remains true that this single industrial ship - piloted by a freelance volunteer pilot - was the only one carrying such cargo in the operation today. ARC’s internal security of operations should be called into concern - but I’m interested in investigating the truth here. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/275 "2021-05-14T21:06:55Z")
> [@Issac\_Taredi](#): > > you dont build structures at an LZ. you dont hand out arms at an LZ for a supposedly peaceful extraction. You absolutely build structucres at your Landing Zone if you plan to re-use it. And you absolutely bring the supplies to ensure your security forces can remain armed and operational over a prolonged period of time while you’re not there. ---
**Author:** ![Issac\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issac_taredi/32/435383_2.png) [@Issac\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issac_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/276 "2021-05-14T21:07:04Z")
The only one anyone knows of. Its likely additional occupations were planned before the truth of this plot was revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Galm\_Eskola-Fae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galm_eskola-fae/32/511580_2.png) [@Galm\_Eskola-Fae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galm_Eskola-Fae)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/277 "2021-05-14T21:07:06Z")
> [@Svreja\_Bjokor](#): > > Ass much Oh mai ---
**Author:** ![Mahazkei\_Vas\_Hiigara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mahazkei_vas_hiigara/32/374597_2.png) [@Mahazkei\_Vas\_Hiigara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mahazkei_Vas_Hiigara)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/278 "2021-05-14T21:07:48Z")
Wind’s gone, I’m laughing now. ---
**Author:** ![Issac\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issac_taredi/32/435383_2.png) [@Issac\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issac_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/279 "2021-05-14T21:11:38Z")
And yet there were no plans for ongoing operations, so yet again, why bring structures for a single use LZ? ARC came to Pochven uninvited with hostile intent, flying ships full of marines and resources for occupation, and you expect anyone to believe this was simply to secure an LZ? If you believe that, as the ancient human saying goes, then I have bridge I would like to sell you. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/280 "2021-05-14T21:14:18Z")
yes but unlike arc today we never lied about us ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/281 "2021-05-14T21:16:37Z")
Really doesn’t counter my point. Imagine if the Trigs get whatever it is they’re wanting out of our tiny little cluster and just… ■■■■ off. Without you. Do you think your choices will be forgotten? The thing about betraying your people is you better ■■■■■■■ hope you win. ---
**Author:** ![MantelGlobalIndustries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mantelglobalindustries/32/380599_2.png) [@MantelGlobalIndustries](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MantelGlobalIndustries)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/282 "2021-05-14T21:17:01Z")
> [@Seriatim\_Foucault](#): > > I give fair warning. If the Clades are roused to hunting on the worlds of the Forest the blame will lie with those who intruded on the soil of the Krais. Those systems you have stolen from us are and remain the sovereign territory of the Big Four. You are merely temporary occupiers. Squatters. Criminals that try to air the aura of legitimacy but are unable to prevent everyone from seeing your true odious nature. There is little more detestable than someone who would willingly swear allegiance to such an alien force as the Collective. Even more so for an individual that was in Federal Service, responsible for upholding the Constitution and in the fundamental protection of life itself. Then again - you were former Ostrakon. They hire all the crazies and degenerates that are unfit. You may have forgotten the promises you made to the people of the Federation, but the rest of us have not. For someone such as you, I hope you get the same treatment as Admiral Eturrer. In fact, I wish for the honour of taking you to the river myself. May your spirit forever be tormented in your husk of a corpse, when it is your time to face your ancestors judgement. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927.md?page=15)