# \[ARC\] Joined operation request to the Empires, EDENCOM and loyal capsuleers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927 "2021-05-07T21:28:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Engineer\_Gromov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/engineer_gromov/32/273238_2.png) [@Engineer\_Gromov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Engineer_Gromov)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-joined-operation-request-to-the-empires-edencom-and-loyal-capsuleers/309927/360 "2021-05-16T11:45:52Z")

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> [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](#):
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> There was a time window where this was available.
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> The offer was not accepted
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> Higher ups from the Triglavians prohibited the evacuation
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> Negotiations ended
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> Whatever happens now is by force and will most likely involve a lot of civilians deaths during the transportation

While this pushes any and all responsibility and accountability away from you to your commanding officer, it is the most reasonable response among the others here.

> [@Sahara\_Jackal](#):
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> The Convocation decides who may leave and who may not-- _like any other sovereign ruler._

Last time I checked, three out of four empires allow their citizens with the means to do so to freely immigrate among the cluster. The only one who does not is the Amarr Empire, which has built its very foundations on slavery and oppression. Comparing yourself to them like this shows that you know you are in the wrong.  
Just like them, you still attempt to act towards others as if you were righteous.

> [@Sahara\_Jackal](#):
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> Don’t even think to cry to me about the sanctity of “civilian freedom” or any other such nonsense.

I like how the narrative went from “the civilians want to be Triglavian” to “I know many of them don’t want to, but we don’t care, and don’t you dare mention it”.

> [@Sahara\_Jackal](#):
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> Devotion to your Empires does not reward you with the moral high ground.

Bold of you to assume I am devoted to any empire, instead of to humanity.  
And you have proclaimed yourself enemy of humanity.  
It’s rather simple, isn’t it.

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