# \[ARC\] Large and Heavily Damaged Drifter Fleet Encountered in Hive Complex **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796 "2018-02-17T07:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/522 "2018-03-14T13:57:57Z")
Hey, your back. You never answered my question a few weeks ago. About the hypocrisy? We were speaking about concord I believe ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/523 "2018-03-14T13:59:37Z")
I do what I do - some things might seem hypocritical, but as long as it allows us to understand more about the cluster and what’s going on I’ll continue. Not speaking for everyone, however - they can justify their actions just as well~ ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/524 "2018-03-14T14:02:26Z")
Is truly “no u” and derision all anyone’s got to offer when ARC meets with criticism of their approach? No one is screaming here, from what I can tell. There’s questions being asked. My goodness, what an intolerable affront. There’s differing views on the subject that don’t conform entirely with ARC’s narrative. Deplorable, I know. ---
**Author:** ![Trii\_Seo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trii_seo/32/498139_2.png) [@Trii\_Seo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trii_Seo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/525 "2018-03-14T14:04:44Z")
Truth is, perhaps, that it was the Carthum venture into Entosis technology and LaiDai’s release of shielding tech vulnerable to it that escalated this conflict properly. House Sarum was likely involved in it to an extent. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/526 "2018-03-14T14:06:28Z")
Our discussion has nothing to do with understanding new eden. We were discussing something along the lines of concord and their not saying drifters were a threat. I called you out on some hypocrisy and you promptly left the conversation ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/527 "2018-03-14T14:08:10Z")
It could have also had something to do with the templar program. I’ve hesrd that the original templar program was created eith sleeper implants. There is only one way to get those ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/528 "2018-03-14T14:08:12Z")
Well I believe I’ve stated before that CONCORD’s only charge is to regulate capsuleers and defend baseliners within the empires from our ambitions - While it would be nice for them to care at all or react to what the Drifters are doing, they don’t. That said, we do. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/529 "2018-03-14T14:10:01Z")
@Woodrow_Ormand and @Mizhara_Del_thul I would like to personally invite you along to the next system a Drifter-ball arrives in. You’re more than welcome to perform any tests, make any measurements, consider any observations, that you may possibly wish to do. I would be _extremely_ interested to hear what you learn. ---
**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/530 "2018-03-14T14:10:46Z")
As soon as one is found, if I’m around, I’ll be sure to send information their way. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/531 "2018-03-14T14:12:29Z")
Ifnconcord doesn’t care, then why do they tell us to go and take care of problematic things, like the rogue drone alerts? Or any of the other things that concord tells us. Hell, they warned us the firdt time the drifters attacked. But not now. Now they are silent. They do not attack. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/532 "2018-03-14T14:13:47Z")
I was doing just that when the last drifter ball emerged in caldari space. ARC showed up and killed them while I was studying them ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/533 "2018-03-14T14:16:37Z")
Funny, I didn’t see you there. ---
**Author:** ![Trii\_Seo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trii_seo/32/498139_2.png) [@Trii\_Seo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trii_Seo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/534 "2018-03-14T14:17:30Z")
Because, quite frankly, we’re their need-to-know-basis mop-up crew. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/535 "2018-03-14T14:19:19Z")
Wonder how long it’d take before the suicide dessies would come along, but sure. I’d take a shift or five if the approach changed to _actual_ observation and study rather than “hurr bored now, me go shooty instead”. Should be a cakewalk to set up a rotating shift covering all twenty-four hours of a cycle for a long-term study. So far, the ‘patience’ on display has been rather non-existent. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/536 "2018-03-14T14:19:33Z")
Oh, so concord has told you that they are a threat. May I see the message? ---
**Author:** ![Trii\_Seo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trii_seo/32/498139_2.png) [@Trii\_Seo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trii_Seo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/537 "2018-03-14T14:20:07Z")
Trawl through their advisories from the past few years. Pretty sure it’s there. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/538 "2018-03-14T14:21:14Z")
No, recently. Each crisis ends and a new always begins. But we have hesrd nothing from concord. Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/539 "2018-03-14T14:21:36Z")
The fact is, over a 24h period if ARC didn’t remove them, somebody else would. Of the three fleets yesterday, only two of them were defeated by ARC. Frankly if they are going to be blown up, I’d rather ARC do it than anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/540 "2018-03-14T14:21:47Z")
I was there in my interceptor. I was there for 2 hours. I saw what happened ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/541 "2018-03-14T14:22:20Z")
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