# \[ARC\] Large and Heavily Damaged Drifter Fleet Encountered in Hive Complex **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796 "2018-02-17T07:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Trii\_Seo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trii_seo/32/498139_2.png) [@Trii\_Seo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trii_Seo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/583 "2018-03-14T14:51:24Z")
And this, in your mind, was not done before? Since their emergence, in fact? ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/584 "2018-03-14T14:52:40Z")
So far, not a single one of their gate-scanning fleets have survived even a single day of operations so… no, it has yet to be attempted by ARC. Suiciding their crews into the drifters have so far been the only demonstrable response ARC has shown to these fleets. ---
**Author:** ![Evi\_Polevhia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evi_polevhia/32/501296_2.png) [@Evi\_Polevhia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evi_Polevhia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/585 "2018-03-14T14:53:34Z")
You want to let a demonstrably hostile force scan assets in our space? Oh, ok. No. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/586 "2018-03-14T14:54:24Z")
On the contrary, recently they have been demonstrably peaceful ---
**Author:** ![Evi\_Polevhia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evi_polevhia/32/501296_2.png) [@Evi\_Polevhia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evi_Polevhia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/587 "2018-03-14T14:55:00Z")
> [@Woodrow\_Ormand](#): > > On the contrary, recently they have been demonstrably peaceful Our memories do manage to somehow miraculously stretch back more than a few weeks. Get your implants checked, Capsuleer. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/588 "2018-03-14T14:55:06Z")
What’s demonstrably hostile about scanning things harmlessly? They aren’t opening fire on anything that isn’t shooting them first, or those weird necrophiles carrying corpses around. They have been demonstrably _harmless_ so far. Other capsuleers are quite demonstrably vastly more dangerous on those gates than the Drifters are. ---
**Author:** ![Trii\_Seo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trii_seo/32/498139_2.png) [@Trii\_Seo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trii_Seo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/589 "2018-03-14T14:55:24Z")
They have exhibited similar activity in the past. Going as far as, if memory serves me right - aggressing entosis-carrying ships that travelled through a stargate. What we’ve seen so far from those fleets that wind up on gates exhibits more similarity to the remains of a rout, rather than an organized operation. ---
**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/590 "2018-03-14T14:56:22Z")
They’re peaceful provided you ignore all the times they aren’t peaceful. Please move shitposting to designated area. ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/591 "2018-03-14T14:56:46Z")
So there are objections to a shoot first and ask questions later philosophy? Hmm, interesting and mildly hypocritical. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/592 "2018-03-14T14:56:54Z")
Indeed, hence why they should be studied to see what happens next. Are they there just to be disposable scanbots of some kind? Are they fulfilling any specific task and what happens if they fail/succeed at it? Do they go anywhere else if they maintain their vigil with no findings? And so on and so forth. There’s an endless array of questions that _could_ potentially find answers if only a little patience was displayed. ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/593 "2018-03-14T14:57:31Z")
And on top of that, if you so object to ARC, why did you actively donate to them? ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/594 "2018-03-14T14:59:20Z")
I donated to their actual scientific endeavors. ARC showed a lot of promise, which is why it’s disappointing to see it turn into just rabid frothing “kill them all!” mentalities without a care for neither the potential consequences of such unbridled aggression nor the potential lost opportunities for further study and potential discoveries. Edit: I’d continue donating as well, but only if it could be earmarked only to certain aspects of the research, and ensuring none of it goes towards this psychotic rampaging against harmless fleets. ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/595 "2018-03-14T15:00:13Z")
Our engagement with Drifters isn’t new. Don’t feign ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Evi\_Polevhia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evi_polevhia/32/501296_2.png) [@Evi\_Polevhia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evi_Polevhia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/596 "2018-03-14T15:00:18Z")
Drifters have been marked as hostile forces due to previous unprovoked engagements. Just because they are not currently shooting doesn’t make them not hostile. Enemy ships are valid targets in war regardless of their weapon status. And as far as I’m concerned this is a state of war. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/597 "2018-03-14T15:01:15Z")
> [@Trii\_Seo](#): > > Screaming at others to do things rarely works, unless you happen to be in charge. Awright then: Trii, go do that. (You kinda walked into that one). ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/598 "2018-03-14T15:02:18Z")
Different field of battle. I started objecting when pissing the Drifters off _over the heads of our damned people_ started happening. We can just clone when ■■■■ goes sideways, our people sure as hell can’t. That is not the time nor place to start provoking more doomsday barrages. ---
**Author:** ![Stig\_Elendil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stig_elendil/32/469789_2.png) [@Stig\_Elendil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stig_Elendil)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/599 "2018-03-14T15:06:19Z")
M Ormand… I’m concerned about what you’re saying and its validity while you said you were present “at the last engagement”. I have been running some personal contacts, unfructuous I admit, and thus for hours on the last 2 events. I **_never_** saw you on the field. I remember to have seen you only in Rens. So far I also encourage you to read more accurately this thread about your concerns of Concord. They still consider Drifters a threat as, hope the person who said it will forgive me of not remembering who it was, it has an effect on security status. This thread should be interesting, with many sides giving advices and different views, but sadly I can only say that I’m disappointed to see how this is only a pure ranting one. Absolutely not helpful in any way. It’s just poluting IGS. i’m not used to be so _aggressive_ and I hope people will forgive me but enough is enough with such behavior. You should be all better than what you show us here. Again apologies for my behavior on this point as I’m not used to this, I’ll try to work on this too. Edit : as M Ormand pointed it it was in Sirppala, not in Rens that I’ve seen him. Place wasn’t the right one but facts are still valid concerning the last 2 places. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/600 "2018-03-14T15:08:15Z")
> [@Stig\_Elendil](#): > > i’m not used to be so aggressive and I hope people will forgive me I forgive you for not being used to being aggressive. I’m sure you can get better at it. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/601 "2018-03-14T15:08:17Z")
Oh so it’s because ARC shot Drifter fleets in Minmatar space without asking your permission that has got you so turbobuttblasted. Well that’s perfectly understandable. I for one would be perturbed if armed forces fighting enemies of civilisation stepped on my peonies as they crossed my garden. ---
**Author:** ![Woodrow\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/woodrow_ormand/32/515084_2.png) [@Woodrow\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Woodrow_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-large-and-heavily-damaged-drifter-fleet-encountered-in-hive-complex/57796/602 "2018-03-14T15:10:01Z")
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